Calzaghe should fight Dawson in Wales and then retire

But hindsight works for a reason. That's why Michael Grant isn't the best win on Lennox's resume despite being one of the more hyped challengers he faced. People were wrong about Lacy and Calzaghe when they fought. Joe was better and Lacy not as good as both were percieved coming in.

Why is Dawson a better win than Lacy? I think for staters he is coming in with a better list of wins than Lacy. I don't think Lacy beat anyone as good as Adamek, Johnson, or maybe even Tarver. Than you throw styles into the mix. Lacy was made for Calzaghe, he simply came foward and ate punches like he always does. Not the way to beat Calzaghe. Dawson's style, speed, and size would match up much better than Lacy did. The final reason Dawson would be a better win is because he is better than Lacy and would probably go on to do big things even if he lost while Lacy hasn't done nearly as well since.

 

Dawson was put on his arse by a cruiseweight who had trouble staying at LHW, he only made it out alive against a faded 39 year old Johnson because he was saved by the bell in round three, and because Johnson was too faded to take him out in round 10, and that was that...he didn't achieve more than that...let's not talk about Tarver because anyone in the top 10 would have beaten him. So...his best win was a close scrape against a faded Johnson, who was beaten by Antonio Tarver, who was beaten by Hopkins, whom Calzaghe beat! See...two can play at this game...

Forget it mate...Dawson is the 3rd best LHW in the world after Calzaghe and Hopkins, and until he's beaten Hopkins, he doesn't deserve a shot at Calzaghe more than Bute deserves a shot at Calzaghe before he beats Kessler.

 

Dawson,if he were to lose, wouldn't lose as bad as Lacy did. Then you take that loss with Lacy's injuries and his post Calzaghe career hasn't been stellar. Dawson, I'm going to assume, would bounce back much better than Lacy has.

 

Because Lacy was a proven fighter with a chin, which is more than Dawson is, for all his skills and talent. Johnson, yeah...a name...but in a very close fight in which he was lucky not to get KOed...TWICE...and what kind of Johnson was that? Too faded to finish Dawson off when he had him out on his fee. As to Tarver, don't even go there, please!

Styles? Lacy was made for Calzaghe...and so was Kessler and so was Jones, and so will be every fighter Calzaghe figures out and then takes apart, unless that fighter is a genius like Hopkins, which Dawson, of all people, certainly isn't.

 

How do you prove your chin? He was down but got up. He's taken flush shots from Johnson and didn't go down. If you think Dawson's chin is unproven, then so is Calzaghe's. He's been down from an elbow punch for Christ's sake

I'm sure you know best what he needs. I don't think more respect from me, or any other people out there could hurt him, but you're doing a great job trying to protect him from it.

Please spare me that ducking ****. And decide: either he is a threat and so has the right to call Calzaghe out, or he is easy retirement money. There are no inbetweens.

Finally, & IMHO, beating Tarver, Johnson gave him the right to challenge Calzaghe. Both of us know that Calzaghe would have been fighting Tarver in Wales had Tarver won over Dawson... So if someone beats Tarver in style, how can he not be a better alternative?

 

It's pretty well known that he is pretty sick of the game.
He has had a few sub par performances when he has not focused on a fight.
Recently he has had more to motivate himself with.
If you remember the hype surrounding Lacy and how he was gonna knock Joe out etc that pushed him on.
Unifying the SMW division against the unbeaten prime Kessler likewise.
Fighting in the USA at vegas against the tricky Hopkins and finally fighting a legend (past prime) in Roy Jones at MSG all kept his interest.

He has enough money now, he knows his powers are diminishing, who is clearly outthere knocking the door down for Calzaghe?
Max Kellerman mentioned Dawson and many others have said that it must be a Hopkins rematch after his display against Pavlik.

Dawson barely got past Glen Johnson and wouldnt rematch him he is hardly carrying the momentum of a Lacy at the moment who was knocking heavily at the door.

Hopkins would not fight against Calzaghe with the same style he did against Pavlik as Joe would catch him time after time.
The last fight seen Hopkins tire at the pace Calzaghe set throw 1 punch lead with the head and hug. He even took a 5 min break late on to prevent Calzaghe stopping him.

I dont see a fight for Calzaghe just now.

 

Calzaghe has been down in fights but if you seen the Kessler fight he took some monster uppercuts. Jones last night also landed with a peach of an uppercut that would shake your boots. Solid chin.

 

Because Tarver was shot! Beating a shot fighter means little...just like it means little when Calzaghe beat a shot Jones, who was less shot than Tarver, btw.

If he had beaten Dawson, it meant he wasn't shot, so of course Calzaghe might have wanted to fight him. atsch

I've had enough of your attitude, to be honest. Suit yourself and believe what you will. I will no longer discuss the matter with you.

 

Yeah I agree he wouldnt lose in the same way lacy did. I did state that.
Your of course correct with the injuries to lacy a point which I have repeated many times on this board.
My point was more that people have just trashed lacy as rubbish and no good, who has he fought? who has he beat? once Calzaghe schooled him.

With Dawson they will say he beat a shot Tarver (very very true) and the guy didnt even beat a fading Glen Johnson.

 

This is precisely what they would say, and they would talk about his dodgy chin too...

 

There is more than just having a chin and add to that Calzaghe isn't Julian Jackson as a lightheavyweight. Dawson's chin isn't granite but it seem ok and he has shown he can deal with it. Dawson has have proven more than Lacy did.

Lacy was made for Calzaghe but it was still a good win. Jones was shot that fight proves nothing. Kessler and Hopkins were excellent wins for Calzaghe and are two of the big reasons he is rated as a top 2-3 pfp guy. So no, not every fighter is made for Calzaghe that he beats. Dawson isn't but Lacy was.

Calzaghe has been a champion for 12 years or so and about 25 fights. Only a couple have been as good as Dawson. So clearly Dawson has met the accepted "proven" criteria that Calzaghe has set.

 

:verysad

 

Tarver was shot so that proves nothing. Dawson barely got past a faded Johnson, so that proves little. He hasn't proven his chin at all and to say it wasn't granite would be to "bless it with high criticism". The question here is not whether Dawson deserves a fight against Calzaghe or not. He does. The question is whether he deserves it clearly more than anyone else. He doesn't. Even if he did, he'd have to be an outstanding candidate, for Calzaghe to put his retirement plans aside for him. He clearly isn't. So...why are we having this conversation?

 

Tarver couldn't take out Dawson when he was with his head in a muddle, early on in the fight. Then, in round 7, Dawson stood in front of him for the entire round, without doing much at all. Tarver didn't do anything. With the same opportunities, I'm pretty sure Jones would have taken him out...he did put Calzaghe (a much better fighter) on his arse in the 1 st round, and he did counterpunch him quite well for a little bit, and he did hit him with a massive uppercut that would surely have taken Dawson out...:good

 

Bute is more unproven than Dawson and you know that. Taylor is a middleweight now fighting as a SMW, Calzaghe isn't wasting his time in SMW.