Calzaghe should fight Dawson in Wales and then retire

Fair enough, Woods has thrown in the odd performance before. When I was watching the fight and how he was doing very little I thought here we go again.
I really thought Tarver was there for the taking in the woods fight and his performance there did nothing to change my opinion that he was shot.
So when Tarver is fighting Dawson and looks in trouble very early without ever troubling Dawson my opinion I thought was correct Tarver was shot.
Woods and Tarver (to a greater extent) are both finished I think, any fight that they would have in LHW that was meaningful I think they would lose.

A lot of the LHW elite Calzaghe, Hopkins, Jones are at the end of their careers. Woods and Tarver are just behind them on the way out. The younger guns would take care of them imo and Glen Johnson too I would favour over the pair of them.

 

Still cryin, baby?

For your info. According to the ring rankings - Woods is number 7 at LHW (above Adrian Diaconu, how is that possible...?). And Tarver did beat him not so long ago, remember? So WTF are you talking about. Or am I misquoting your precious words again?

 

Some people might say he was still raw. Others would give him credit for one of the best wins in his career. He can retire. But if he doesn't, there is no reason to fight anyone else... Unless you fancy another clash of the legends - how about Calzaghe - Michalczewski...

 

Calzaghe previously stated that he was retiring after this fight.
Do you seriously believe that Chad Dawson has the pulling power to get him out of his retirement and back into training?
If Dawson is Calzaghe's next fight its because Calzaghe wants it not because Dawson deserves it.
A couple of months ago Calzaghe was ducking the wrecking machine kelly pavlik. When Enzo and Joe Calzaghe stated that they offered the fight to Pavlik (and he turned it down) twice everyone scoffed. When Enzo calzaghe stated that pavlik was not in the same class everyone scoffed.
Fast forward to after the b-hop schooling and people dont talk too much pavlik now. There is always someone on the horizon, the next big thing. If Calzaghe retires so be it he does not need Dawson's name on his resume.

On to Roy last night.
I didnt think Roy was that awful last night I actually had 1-5 (1 was obviously roy's) nip and tuck with the scoring Roy landing cleaner shots and calzaghe's output scoring for him. In the 2nd half of the fight Jones had a nasty cut and done well to fight to the final bell.

I did not have the fight 118 to 110

 

So people differ in opinion, what does that prove?

One very good reason not to fight Hopkins is that Joe has already clearly beaten him. He's done it once, he can do it again. It's not like Hopkins has gotten younger or gained massive experience in the meantime, is it?

 

Well funny, cos he wasn't so sure after. Go figure...

Ok. Let's have a look at what stopped Calzaghe retiring early. The last five names on his resume are:
RJJ
BHOP
Kessler
Manfredo
Bika

I'd say at least three of these are comfortably below Dawson's current level, agreed? (I'm excluding Kessler and BHOP, these could be competitive).

While Dawson might not have enough pulling power, if the money is right (and we don't know what it is yet) there's no reason not to make the fight. If there's enough interest (i.e. sufficiently many people make noise) the money will be right...

I think there is nothing after Dawson. Many people seem to share that view.

Now, he might not need Chad's name. FF 10 years when Chad has eclipsed RJJ and is on a streak of 50 undefeated fights (ok, I'm pushing it a bit) and things might look very different. There will always be question marks. Lewis - Klitschko anyone? RJJ - Michalczewski? Let's do it while we can.

 

It's a bit confusing to have some people say Dawson hasn't earned a fight with Calzaghe. When in 46 fights only several are/were as good as Dawson. Calzaghe hasn't set the bar very high when it comes to who he will face. But now that Dawson is a possible fight there is a whole new standard for who he will or will not face.

 

Whether Calzaghe wants it or not does not depend on who desreves a shot at the man in the division. How can you compare Pavlik to Dawson or even Lacy to Dawson as most people like to compare? They have two totally different styles. Everybody thought Pavlik would be a good fight but we were wrong, he was exposed and that's how it works in Boxing. Dawson, however, has not been exposed by any fighter and has the style and skill to beat Calzaghe, the only questionable thing is his chin but that's negated by Calzaghe's lack of power.

Let me say this, if you did not have it 118 to 110 or 117 to 111 or 112 then that's bad scoring. Roy arguably one 3 rounds that whole fight. Two points in round one and possibly the second round.

 

He's playing it wisely. The 'retirement' spiel is clearly generating a lot more attention than he would get otherwise. Also, given that he is 'almost retired' and there's only one or two fights left, it's 'obvious' he can pick and choose (without being called a cherry-picker).

EDIT: btw. I like your other posts in this thread - I think we see eye to eye.

 

Good points. I agree with your whole post.

 

I'm so sick and tired of people comparing Lacy to Dawson.:-( These people clearly don't know boxing. Dawson is light years ahead of Lacy in terms of boxing skills and if you can't see it you're blind. Lacy was a hype job a limited fighter with a catchy nickname, chissled physique with a bunch of KOs over no hopers.:deal Dawson isn't limited and he has beaten good fighters in Adamek, Tarver and Johnson any three of those guys are better wins than anyone on Lacy's resume.

 

His chin has already been proven he was hurt by Johnson but wan't stopped or knocked down. He faced two big punchers in Adamek and Tarver and passed the test what more do you want? You're just a Dawson hater who wouldn't give him credit no matter who he beat. Not proven GTFOH! The man is a two time tilte holder at 175 if he's not proven then who the **** is?:deal

BTW your statement that Lacy was more proven than Dawson is shows how irrational you are when discussing this. No ****ing way is Lacy more proven and you're a fool for even saying it, Adamek, Johnson and Tarver **** all over anything Lacy accomplished in his career. Face it man you're a Dawson hater and have no credibility when he's brought up.

 

BUte is the definition of a hype job out on his feet against a limited and crude guy like Andrade that tells you everything you need to know about him he's unproven. BTW Dawson KOs Bute if the two ever meet.hi: