Calzaghe should get less credit nowadays for beating Lacy.. True or False?

Given that Lacy has gone on to achieve virtually nothing since their fight, should this reflect on the victory's significance?

Before voting, let's reflect on what people were predicting before the fight:

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/3430/lacy-calzaghe-fight-predictions/

http://www.b ox ings ce ne.com/?m=show&id=3266

Roy Jones Junior

"When Lacy nails Calzaghe and hurts him then Joe will try to get payback, and then he will be open to really get hurt - which he will."

James Toney

"Joe Calzaghe-Jeff Lacy is a mismatch. Lacy is going to destroy that boy. He's too strong, he's a fighter - he's proved himself."

 

False, I could make the argument Lacy was that good and Calzaghe ruined him and give him more credit. :good

 

I think he should get a lot of credit.

 

I'm British, I like Joe but I don't think Lacy was great. Good but not great. I give Joe more credit for beating Kessler and Hopkins and no credit for beating RJJ. I would if Calzaghe hadn't said that RJJ was shot and would never bother fighting him in his autobiography.

 

The significance is the fight itself. Lacy took so much punishment. If he was going to have a career ending fight, that was definetely it.

 

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I dont think that Calazaghe ruined Lacy.. he definitely exposed him

Lacy was a hype job and was severely mis-managed IMO. The win isnt that impressive to me considered my views of Lacy going into that fight. But i do give JC credit for doing what he was supposed to do with the limited Lacy.

I believe that the rotator cup injury was the beginning of the end for Lacy. He blew it out early in his comeback fight and hasnt been able to get off or throw combination's like he is accustomed to doing.

 

Agreed. I don't think many fighters would have the same confidence after that beating.

I don't think Lacy was the ATG he was hyped to be but he was certainly an elite fighter who had the fight knocked out of him that night.

 

Bit of a non-question really.

Yes, for precisely ****ing up Lacy so badly that he's no longer a contender.
No, because, as it is evident since Lacy has achieved nothing afterwards, it shows that he had nothing before.

Take ya pick.

Reminds me of the Hopkins scenario where when Joe fought him, Hopkins was just an old man. But when Hopkins beat the **** out of Pavlik, he actually gets praised for being an old man.atsch

 

Problem with that is that Lacy wasnt ruined by Calzaghe and didnt fair that well in fights leading into his fight with Cazlaghe, Lacy also had his best win after the fight with Calzaghe.

Its true that Calzaghe shouldnt get much credit for beatting what was a vastly overrated fighter. Another fight that is kinda along those same lines is Lewis over Grant, Mosley over Phillip Holiday, were they were great wins at the time but the loser proved on the whole of thier careers not to be as strong as was thought going into the fight.

The truely bad thing for Calzaghe is that his place in history is largely in the hands of Mikkel Kessler right now, should he fall flat in the tourny coming up it would be a nightmare for Joe...You may not agree but its very much the truth.

 

Hindsight is a wonderful thing & we can now all say how easy it was for Calzaghe, that it wasn;t much of a victory, not give him the enormous credit that he received for such an emphatic performance!

However, at the time, Lacy was the favourite, hardly any of the so-called experts picked Joe. Some were even saying he was going to get mullered! I picked Calzghe to win, but by no means did I feel he would win so easily, hitting Lacy whenever he virtually felt like it!

It remains the most one-sided performance I've sene live. I'm not sure if I'll see a showing of the same stature, let alone one that will better it!

The credit should still be high because, esentially, Calzaghe took Lacy apart & Jeff has not been the same since & never will be, in a boxing ring!

 

Lacy was an over-hyped fighter.

 

Calzaghe RUINED Lacy. Any non success after their fight is at least in part to Joe administrating the worst beating of the decade.

If Vargas was damaged after what Tito did to him, If Taylor was damaged after Chavez, Lacy was damaged by Calzaghe.

When a fighter takes an up and comer with promise, and despite what ANYBODY says, almost everybody was on the Lacy train, and then he not only derails it but beats the break off of it in absolutely stunning fashion, its a great win.

 

From 2004 - read the part on Lacy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/2583869.stm

The hype machine began around after this time.

 

Again. .

Im not convinced that JC ended Lacy's career. .

Lacy was beaten badly by JC . . but i dont think he was "ruined".

Remember he hasn't looked the same since facing an almost career ending injury!!! the layoff was long after that and i dont know if that shoulder will ever be 100%. Against Taylor, it looked to be about 40% the way he was carrying it.

Against JC, i dont think he had trouble letting his hands go, JC's movement just left him with no target to swing at.