Calzaghe should prove that he's great

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  1. IrnBruMan

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    Wow man, did you see the fight and did you have Hopkins winning it? Skirting around the issue much?

    Who cares why Hopkins priced himself out of the fight back then, he ducked Calzaghe - why do you think he ducked Calzaghe? Because he was high risk/low reward right? "High risk" suggesting he knew he may have lost to Calzaghe back then :deal There you have it, straight from the horses mouth.

    I care little for the politics of it all, with which you're trying to bolster your case. Fact is, Calzaghe beat both Jones and Hopkins recently. Frank Warren's involvement in his career has little to do with whether or not he could have beaten them in their (and his) prime.

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  2. IrnBruMan

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    You better do better than dredging up the politics of boxing in an effort to prove that Hopkins and Jones would have beaten Calzaghe in years gone by :deal

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  3. imp4pdabest

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    When i comes to Roy KO'ing someone, it doesn't matter how elite you are or blah blah blah, all that matters is when his hand connects to that chin, can that chin take it? Now Hopkins proved he could take it, Toney took those hooks like they were nothing, but can Joe, the guy who gets dropped by 40 yr olds take it, most likely not!;)
     
  4. IrnBruMan

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    1. Go and find username muttley in the Members List dumbarse :deal I've already explained I requested a change of username you ****ing idiot :lol: Therefore, muttley is not an alias of mine, it is my previous username. What don't you understand about that?

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  5. BADINTENTIONS2

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    you know why the politics is important but you also know why you cant reply to this straight.

    i'm use to people being dismissive to my posts once i spell it out and using the same emotes you do and you're doing no different.

    you're not going to change your point of view...
     
  6. BADINTENTIONS2

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    this i want to hear.

    lets see if you can do it without farting around.

    go....
     
  7. IrnBruMan

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    Yep, Calzaghe took it, got right back up and started kicking Hopkins arse.

    The RJJ KD was from the forearm hitting Calzaghe on the bridge of his nose.

    Any man would do well to be conscious after that, never mind actually get up and proceed to whoop his arse.

    Calzaghe has amazing recooperative abilities, so while he may well have been dropped by RJJ and Hopkins in their prime, that doesn't mean they would KO him.
     
  8. BadJuju83

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    KO'ing Hill and Griffen does not mean there's a 60% chance he KO's Calzaghe, size and strength mean squat. He failed to KO alot smaller men.
     
  9. IrnBruMan

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    No sorry mate, you're retreating now and not doing a particularly subtle job of it. The politics is not important when discussing whether someone could have beaten someone at a certain time. The politics may have stopped that fight from happening at that time, but in no way did the politics determine the potential result of said fight. So why don't you stop clinging to this excuse?

    You've spelt nothing out, instead you've tried to throw up smokescreens and avoid answering a very simple question.

    You're the one who's not replying straight my friend - did you see the Calzaghe Hopkins fight and did you have Hopkins winning?

    How hard a question is it to answer :hey
     
  10. Predicto

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    Good points for sure... I don't think it's a matter of Dawson deserving the shot. (personally, I say he owes Johnson a rematch before he does anything!)
    But, I just think it would be a better way for Joe to go out.
    Of course that's IF HE WINS.. which I believe he would.
     
  11. BADINTENTIONS2

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    its not that amazing to have those attributes if you fight second tier fighters or those that are past their prime.

    you're defending a good fighter - but you've never been there yourself.

    also, using heresay to say that jones and hopkins wouldnt have KO'd calzaghe is really only lending weight to the "what if" argument that calzaghe should have done something about it.
     
  12. BadJuju83

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    Anything can happen in Boxing obviously but 60% chance?, No.
    Nothing on either record backs this up, infact the opposite.

    The uppercut Calzaghe took was as sweet as anything landed in the Hop and Toney fights.
     
  13. IrnBruMan

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    Please explain how Frank Warren potentially preventing this fight from happening could possibly have any impact on whether or not Calzaghe could or couldn't have beaten RJJ in his prime.

    Please explain why you are clinging to Frank Warren's politics when it is well-known that Hopkins priced himself out of a fight with Calzaghe, and you yourself have said it was due to Calzaghe being a 'high risk, low reward' opponent.

    You really need to explain why you think Frank Warren's actions could have had any sort of impact on Calzaghe's ability to beat RJJ and/or Hopkins in their primes.
     
  14. IrnBruMan

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    you're rubbishing a good fighter - but you've never been there yourself.

    also, using hearsay to say that jones and hopkins would have KOd calzaghe is really only lending weight to the "what if' argument that Hopkins should have done something about it instead of pricing himself out of a fight 7 years ago.

    Should I add you to my list BADINTENTIONS2? :lol:
     
  15. BADINTENTIONS2

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    you said..frank warren's actions had little or nothing to do with joe fighting jones or hopkins in their prime.

    i've explained why fighting in wales takes him out of the equation but i want to see you get off the back foot and back up your argument now you've put yourself out there.
    stop ****ing around and tryng to sell judgments because you dont want to do it.

    stop *****-footing around and back up your man - if you really believe it.