Yep, swearing is funny, especially when you put it in capital letters and include smiley faces. Bravo.
WHAT?!?!?! Look at Marciano's resume before making such comparisons. Ludicrous. No-one could make the same criticisms of him as they do of Calzaghe. And Pavlik has been a world champion for about 3 hours, no-one is slagging his resume as he hasn't had time (such as 9 years?) to go for the big fights. Nonsense.
Just so I know, when did you have to become an ATG to be considered world class? Owned. So very very owned.
No one ever claimed they were ATG's you tool. Funny how you edited your post to remove Mitchell isn't it? Questioning yourself now when you see it in type, aren't you? 2 time WBA champ, multiple defenses, wins over the likes of Liles and Siaca... I guess even you have seen the light on that one. And no he didn't lose unanimously to Otkke like you said, it was a very dubious SD. Shall we be a little more objective? Brewer had a few losses on his resume sure, if thats how you want to judge a fighter, go ahead. The guy fought everyone and was always competitive. Robbed twice by Ottke. Again multiple defenses of a world title. Notable wins over the like of Graham, Byrd, Zuniga and Pemberton. Robin Reid had only lost once before meeting Calzaghe, to two time WBC champ Malinga - a guy who beat Nigel Benn. Olympic medalist, which despite your protestations means quite a bit to the guys that fight for them. WBC, WBF and IBO champion. Umpteen fight for both real world straps and abc crap. In his prime a world class operator. The guy that fought Lacy was not prime by any means. Did I mention he was robbed by Ottke too? Woodhall wasn't robbed by Ottke. He did win an olympic bronze when bronze was the best any human could hope for. If you don't know what I mean by that go look it up. Won his title from the Same Malinga that beat Benn and Reid. Defended several time before losing to Beyer. Notable wins over Malinga, Nardiello, and Branco. The guys are world champs, each with multiple defenses. Nothing you can write will change that, even if you put "fact" after some of your bull**** or "owned" at the end of your post. They WERE world class.
You pea-brained idiots. OF COURSE I wasn't suggesting those losers were ATGs, I clearly asked 'the stuff an ATGs resume is made of?' - ie do their names make CALZAGHE an ATG, its HIS resume we were talking about, not Charles ****ing Brewer's. Please read carefully before you reply or what is the point. PS: Re-owned.
The point is you think Brewer, Mitchell, Woodhall and Reid are not world class fighter despite overwhelming incontravertable evidence to the contrary. Please **** yourself carefully as you are going to cause a world shortage of vaseline going at it the way you have been.
I removed Mitchell because you highlighted and enlarged Brewer, Woodhall and Reid in the post I was responding to. And I didn't want to make it look like I was just going off on one, I was responding to you. I still don't think Mitchell was world class anyway, but he was the best of that pathetic bunch you have been going on about all day. I'm not going to bother writing all the same stuff again, we do have different ideas of what world class is, thats all. To me, the very idea that amateur career matters when discussing if a guy was a world class pro or not is laughable. To me, the idea that holding 1 version of a world title for ONE YEAR makes you world class is laughable. To me, the idea that Charles Brewer 40-11, KO'd by several nobodies, 6 losses on his record and aged 33 when he fought Joe, was ever world class is insane. Same for a guy who won a title against a 43 year old with a 42-10 record and lost it a year later. That's not world class. Same for a guy who held a title for a year and lost it, and never got there again (and had also lost to that 40+ superstar Malinga). That's just not my idea of world class at all.
If you're going to start with the foul insults, at least make them remotely funny. overwhelming incontravertable evidence - you are a joke.
I'm not going to have another little spat with you Mr E, clearly you enjoy namecalling etc so much you want more. I believe this matter has already been resolved. Please re-read: I'm not going to bother writing all the same stuff again, we do have different ideas of what world class is, thats all. To me, the very idea that amateur career matters when discussing if a guy was a world class pro or not is laughable. To me, the idea that holding 1 version of a world title for ONE YEAR makes you world class is laughable. To me, the idea that Charles Brewer 40-11, KO'd by several nobodies, 6 losses on his record and aged 33 when he fought Joe, was ever world class is insane. Same for a guy who won a title against a 43 year old with a 42-10 record and lost it a year later. That's not world class. Same for a guy who held a title for a year and lost it, and never got there again (and had also lost to that 40+ superstar Malinga). That's just not my idea of world class at all.
Thanks for taking one last time to expalin it to me. I get it now. I get it. I see what you have been getting at all along. Stupid of me to take so long to see the light. Winning and defending a world title now somehow does not mark you out as world class if you happen to have lost to Joe Calzaghe. Congratulation on being the most ******ed poster on ESB, poodlecunt. PS And yes I do enjoy calling you names. And thank you too whoever it was for bungle**** and poodlecunt. They still make me smile.
My shift is finished here, won't be on til later or tomorrow. I am looking forward to telling my friends how I was arguing today with a guy who thinks Charles Brewer is a world class boxer, it will amuse them no end. It surprises me that someone who knows so little about boxing actually bothers coming on to a boxing forum. You my friend, are violently ******ed. Goodnight.