Calzaghe to seal his legacy against another old fighter?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Dunky McCafferty, Apr 20, 2008.


  1. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    I cant believe it. Fresh after his 'finest' win against a 43 year old Hopkins, its being reported Calzaghe is looking to seal his 'greatness' by fighting Roy Jones jnr, another fighter who will be in his 40's by then.
    My goodness, Im almost left speechless. Calzaghe is going to go down as a legend for beating the best american fighters cos he simply has outlived them.

    Calzaghe is a fine fighter, I have no qualms with that. However, all this "he beat Hopkins & now hes after Jones" stuff makes me nod my head in shame as a true boxing fan. Its an insult to my intelligence that I am supposed to see Joe Calzaghe as the king of kings if he manages to beat two former legends who are in their forties.
    I know my opinion isnt going to go down well among my fellow posters here, but I cannot hold back. 43 year old Hopkins followed by 40 year old Jones? Eubank & Benn were ducking these guys back in the day, & look how long they have been retired. & now Calzaghe is putting these names on his record like hes achieving greatness. Sorry, but I dont fall for it. Not for one minute.
     
  2. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe's legacy got sealed tonight. End of story.

    Even if he now goes on to lose a fight or he never fights again he will be remembered. He's won at 2 weights, fought in the USA, held a belt for a decade. He's beaten young guns in Lacy and Kessler, and wiley gits like Eubank and Hopkins... Hopkins though 43 still world class and top ten P4P material I might add.

    No his record will never look as good as RJJ or SRL or guys like that but there is no longer any question marks over him at all.
     
  3. LiamE

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    Priceless.

    Eubank was never a ducker - but he always valued his heath and wanted to be paid well to put it the line which I think is fair enough.

    Benn would have fought em in their living room for free given half a chance.
     
  4. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    You forgot to mention how much weight Eubank had to burn off to fight Calzaghe, when Eubank, like Hopkins was WAY past his best.

    Calzaghe has got good names on his resume, but please dont insult my intelligence by claiming that Eubank & Hopkins were anything but past their sell by date.
    No offence, but Im an old hand here. I know what Im talking about.
     
  5. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No way in hell did Benn duck Jones.
     
  6. dwilson

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    Calzaghe has sealed his place in boxing history as an ATG and maybe a top five British great. A big money fight against RJJ would be good for him financially.

    But RJJ is not the force he once was. He is still maybe the hardest fight he can get after Tarver and Dawson who do not strike fear into anyones heart.

    I think he should go for RJJ, the fight would be easy to make now.
     
  7. MrSmall

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    Benn would have gone at it at the drop of a hat.
     
  8. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was preparing to fight at lightheavy and fought at SMW instead. Big deal. Eubank always cut it fine and late with the weight. He was in good shape against Joe and lasted 12 well. Eubank may not have been at his peak but the Thompson fights showed he had a hell of a lot left.

    No offence taken or meant, but in the same way that Hopkins at 43 is probably not at his best, Joe at 37 is getting on a fair bit too. I saw no sudden deterioration in Hopkins - frankly its the best performance by someone his age I've ever seen. He is the modern day Archie Moore. Even at 43 Hopkins is world class and worthy of his top 10 p4p rating. Beating him is no small achievement. Had that been any other LHW in the world in there tonight instead of Joe Hops would have won.

    Joe picked himself up off the deck and took the fight to the most awkward fighter of the last 15 years. He adapted and overcame Bernards style and tactics. That IS an important win.
     
  9. dwilson

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    Hopkins was the biggest threat at Light Heavy. No other fighter comes close. JC beat him.#


    Lacy was the biggest threat at SMW then JC humiliated him.


    Kessler was claimed to be the real deal, then JC beat him.


    Add to that all the other good wins over Calzaghes career and you get one of the greatest fighters ever to come from these shores and one of the best pound for pound on the planet. Just because you are head and shouldrs better than those around you does not mean you should not get full credit.
     
  10. kurt2006

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    He going to fight Bruno next.
     
  11. robpalmer135

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    Pavlik has his next 2-3 fights already set up. Lockett - Abraham - Duddy - Trinidiad

    Calzaghe knows the fight cannot get made.
     
  12. Beatboxer

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    Yup. Ill be back later to give more thoughts on the fight and what it means legacy wise for Calzaghe. Unfortunatly I have to go to work till 6.
     
  13. brown_bomber

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    what legacy apart from beating kessler, beating a 43 year old man and a little boy from the contender :D
     
  14. Claypole

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    Before this fight people were harping on about how Hopkins is amazing for his age, and is still one of the best fighters in the world. Now, all of a sudden he gets beat by Calzaghe and people start bringing the age thing into it, trying to detract from Joe's great win.
    Who should Joe have fought instead of Hopkins? I was under the impression that he was the top guy at light heavy.
     
  15. dan-b

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    I'm not I just think Hopkins won. No doubt he'll go on to KO a past it Jones & we'll all be told he's the best British fighter ever & an ATG.