Calzaghe top 100 as it stands now?

yep i cant really see how he could be top 100

 

He's just outside my top 100, never beat a great, took him 10 years to unify, never moved up to fight in another division like many greats before him did, fought mostly C+ type opposition for the better part of a decade, between the years of 97-06, great talent, not so great of a resume/achievements over his career.

 

i know but who else is there for him to beat that would make him top 100?

 

I have him around 70. Very solid reign at 168, sure he did not beat the p4p elites but he dominated there save the Reid fight. You do what you gotta do and he did it at supermiddle.

If he beats Hopkins, which I doubt then I move him up a tad. Hop is still class but he is gettin older of couse.

 

Kostya's resume is more impressive then Calzaghe's... Joe is really relying bigtime on Kessler to do good things with the rest of his career. Which is far from a certainty IMO. Sheika, Veit, Mitchell, Brewer, Lacy and Bika are just a collection of contenders. Kessler is his only win of note at this stage. Kostya destroyed a whole host of world champions, and some very good undefeated fighters. He took more risks, but his overall resume is better because of it. How in the world do you justify having Calzaghe and KT on Par???

 

Chad Dawson. Beating a hopkins who had consecutive losses to Taylor, and is now 43 does NOTHING for his resume. Dawson however would be a massive win. Especially after Dawson destroys Johnson. Beating a very talented undefeated world champion with a couple great wins, would really start to move him up the list. Overall though, he would still be reliant on Kess and Dawson moving forward with their careers. If they do a Lacy, because they are really not that established at the time he fought them, it detracts from his victory.

 

Hopkins ranks in the top 100 for me, but only just. Probably 80 or something. I don't rate his resume either, but at least he has some greats there, even if they were all blown up or ancient.

I imagine Calzaghe will finish up about 150. I don't think he is interested in fighting guys who would really boost his legacy. He is more interested in the amount of money he can make, rightly so, but because of that I doubt he'll ever break the top 100.

 

Right now? 90-100 seems fair. Beating Hopkins and Dawson? Would improve his rank a good bit if he wins:good

 

top 150

 

This is a biased post, and you haven't really offered any sort of counter arguement towards the points that i made. Calzaghe had more longevity then KT, but thats about it. Kostya's best opponents: Zab Judah: more accomplished then ANYONE on Joe's resume. Miguel Gonzalez- Very tough fighter, arguably more accomplished then anyone on Joe's resume also. Defeated in very impressive fashion. Sharmbe Mitchell- Very underated in his prime. Multiple time world champion, destroyed by Kostya. Dobelys Hurtado- World Champion, in his prime who came VERY close to being the first man to defeat Pernell. Destroyed again by KT. Kostya overall was far more impressive against his best opponents, who overall are better fighters then the best Joe has faced. Don't even talk to me about Eubank, i might as well put the Chavez win on a pedestal if we are going to start throwing in old legends to the mix. Calzaghe wasted his talent, deal with it. having a tonne of defences against bums means nothing. Ottke had a similar amount of defences also, do you have him as top 100????