Calzaghe v. Andrade - who wins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Mar 23, 2008.


  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah, apparently this boy is really hyped. I saw him against Earl and he had heart but was very poor. I thought he'd have improved in the meantime...:-( What is certain is that his temperament is suspect - he makes the wrong decisions and throws whatever advantage he might have away, a bit like Stieglitz, who, incidentally, is underrated, skill-wise.
     
  2. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    He was right about JMM over Pac, the judges just robbed him of a correct prediction.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The judges will favor Calzaghe against Hopkins.

    Not that they need too.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    The GOAT TKO Hopkins in 5?:think

    Now remember that CHJ's prediction ratio is 100%, his analysis ratio is also 100%. He tried to convince me that Pac would get a **** decision regardless and he did.

    Also had Calzaghe to outbox Kessler, nobody predicted that.

    If CHJ says Calzaghe TKO 5 Hoppy, we should pay attention.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I took that into account...;)

    :yep :yep :yep :yep :yep

    In big fights like these, there's always a political angle as well. It made sense for the much younger, bigger star Pacquiao to win, business wise, particularly since he beat JMM the first time and it was called a draw.
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I just analyse fighters guys.:yep

    I called Marquez-Pac perfect, I said Marquez would win wide if not for a KD, if a KD happened, it would be closer and the judges would favour Pac.

    I'm immensly sick of Manny Pacquaio and his dumbass fanatical fans.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Indeed. CHJ never gets them wrong.:yep

    You should have listened to him, Amsterdam!:verysad

    The more people argue the judges will rob Calzaghe, the higher the chance that they will police themselves and be fair. The ref, however, he's going to let Hopkins do his thing, of that I'm sure.

    Still, Calzaghe should not lose more than 2 rounds tops, and yeah, he should really stop Hopkins, I agree.:good
     
  8. John18

    John18 Active Member Full Member

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    Read the first page and skipped to the end to comment.

    Is this a case of Andrade beats a guy up so he must be better than Calzaghe?

    Calzaghe by UD. Wide.
     
  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Picking rounds is a bad idea.

    In my iboga induced visions I don't see round numbers with a clock, it isn't like watching a fight on a TV screen.
     
  10. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    God, that would be a WAR:bbb
     
  11. kel

    kel Boxing Addict banned

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    Andrade looked good today but the 2nd rate German still made him look slow on occasions. Calzaghe beats hiim 120-108 every day of the week. Mundine probably 118-110 (Mundine gets lazy for a rd or 2)
     
  12. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    2nd rate German? You make him sound like a good journeyman.

    Stieglitz might never have the temperament to win a title, but he is a decent contender. Just because he was dropped by Berrio (could happen to anyone) and Andrade was too much for him, (he would be for many, even some of the best in the division), doesn't mean that Stieglitz is a bum.

    Let's not forget he is still younger than any other contenders at SMW. His best days are very much ahead of him. He makes stupid decisions because he is inexperienced and because he doesn't know himself well enough. His temperament lets him down. But he will prove to be a good contender in a couple of years, I'm sure of that.
     
  13. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    JMM beat Pac twice, the draw was a robbery too.

    What makes sense about Pac winning? Marquez fairly outboxed him.
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ...business sense...(boxing is a business):

    • Pac is younger, he had at least another 2 years at the top in the game, unlike JMM, who could retire this year...
    • Pac is a bigger star with greater appeal to the fans, not least because of his style, which is exciting even to the casual fan
    • Pac would make bigger fights than JMM
    • Pac would have had to rematch JMM if he had lost. Assuming he won the rematch, they would have had to have a fourth fight to decide who's the best - what about the other big names in the sport who wanted a shot at Pacquiao - the latter would be pretty much finished by the time he fights them
    • the second fight was quite similar to the first...JMM was floored again and would have been floored again every time the two fought...it wouldn't have sold as well as other fights, for the same risk to Pacquiao
    • there's the Guzman factor - if JMM had won, nor he, nor Pacman would have fought Guzman - a big fight can happen between Guzman and JMM now...which breathes more life into the SFW division...
    etc.
     
  15. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Calzaghe UD.

    He wins nearly every round also. :good