Calzaghe versus Kessler rematch, who would you pick...

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  1. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Don't forget his promoter being ill as well contributed to Kessler not being able to get his jab going.
     
  2. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Or maybe Im aware that Calzaghe intends to retire within a year and would rather like him to enhance his legacy by fighting other top fighters rather than wasting time fighting a guy he already beat convincingly.

    Me a Calzaghe nuthugger? Subjective.

    You a troll that knows **** all about the sport? Fact.
     
  3. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    I don't think he's being a troll, I think he genuinely believes what he's saying.
     
  4. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He genuinely believes that Calzaghe-Kessler 2 is a fight that people want to see above a Dawson, Pavlik or Hopkins match up?

    That its more signficant?

    No. He's just trying to wind people up. Or of course as I said already he knows **** all about the sport. Probably a bit of both.
     
  5. HolgerD

    HolgerD Armscontrol Full Member

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    Firstly.Yes!. I'm saying that there were several (actually many) factors that weren't going Kessler's way. Add them up and the story might have been a whole different one. The only way to know is a rematch.

    Secondly.Your questions are leading and I'm not falling into that trap.
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I think you are deluding yourself. Kessler lost not because he wasn't 100%, but because he wasn't experienced/intelligent enough in there; his game wasn't versatile and flexible enough; he couldn't respond to changes in tactics fast enough...none of the excuses that can be made for Kessler can change that. He was simply outclassed.
     
  7. HolgerD

    HolgerD Armscontrol Full Member

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    If you honestly tell me you'd rather see BHOP-JC than Kessler-JC then OMG. No wonder boxing is in a miserable state by many folks judgement.
     
  8. HolgerD

    HolgerD Armscontrol Full Member

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    Because I don't want to fall in your usual trap. :-(
    It sort of explains why you have so many posts!
     
  9. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    My usual trap? What do you mean?:huh

    Mate, you have to let it go! Calzaghe was better. End of story. If you don't allow yourself to accept the truth, you'll turn into a nutty nuthugger.
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    HolgerD?:huh

    EDIT:

    Sorry, didn't mean to be rude or to upset you.

    This is life, though; Calzaghe is better than Kessler, Kessler is better than Bute, Bute is Better than Mundine...etc...
     
  11. youthmann

    youthmann A NEW KING IS BORN Full Member

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    I think MK 2 next fights will show if he has become a better fighter after loosing to JC. I think it would be wrong not to make the rematch within a year og 1,5. Ofcourse if depends of what JC chooses to do. Personally I don't think he wants the rematch - but lets see.

    JC was the best mann that night, and he was the smartest, but in no way so dominating that MK does'nt deserve a second shot. I think we havnen't seen the best of MK yet - some people gets stronger by defeat some do not.

    In a rematch i would serious give it 60/40 to JC. But the fight will be closer this (second) time. The biggest problem for MK is that he cannot train with JC personally (!!!!!). You simply cannot find a guy who is similar to JC (at all), so MK cannot directly train to JC, he has to be satisfied with differents look a liks sparring partners - but it is not good enough. That makes the big differens. It more easy for JC to get MK look a like sparrings partners but nok the other way around. That is why it (in my eyes) the second fight never can be 50/50. MK need a very good day to beat JC.

    But, MK has the possibily to prepare for a "frustrating" fight and prepare different gameplays. And prepare for (and accept) the frustration - so it is not a surprise (again). I was dissapointed about he's corner people whom did very bad in the first fight, - they could have done much more to help MK. You simply cannot just keep talking the same words to your fighter without any power and positive points. After 8 round they should really have tried something else, anything, just loosing a round in another way - dosen't matter, just trying to rock JC out of him good rythm.

    It could be funny to see the "rematch" in US. But, to be honest, the chances are very small. JC won the fight and if he succeses to beat hopkins (and maybe roy jones afterwars) - then in no way he will take the chance against a relative young MK - and risk loosing his zero. Honor and unbeaten means a lot more to JC than any money.

    I hope JC beats the hell out of Hopkins :happy - but i would't be surprised if it ends up with a shitty affair.

    I also looks forwars to se MK blow the head of Miranda, he simply has to win that one. :happy
     
  12. lucasehr

    lucasehr Active Member Full Member

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    Is Calzaghe vacating or will he return to SMW after his thorough domination of BHop?
     
  13. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not because of its potential as a spectacle, but because of its historic signficance: no matter what anybody says a fight between the current undisputed SMW champion and the man regarded by most boxing fans and writers at the LHW champion is signficant. Furthermore, it would render any lame American assertions that Calzaghe never fought the best American had to offer or any 'stay at home joe' taunts fruitless.

    And yes im deadly serious when I say id rather see Dawson vs Calzaghe or Pavlik vs Calzaghe rather than Kessler again. Why ? Kessler gave all he had to give, was beaten soundly and now I want to see JC in against different types of fighter before he retires.
     
  14. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He already has. You guys are just too kind to state it baldly. Anyone that tries to assert that the only people who don't want to see JC-Kessler 2 are hardcore JC fans because they are scared is clearly deluded.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well, if I thought Kessler would come back even stronger/better, I would definitely want to see Calzaghe v. Kessler II rather than Pavlik, but not Dawson, who is the best fight out there, IMO. nly problem is that I don't think Kessler can improve and develop and learn sufficiently in the short period of time that Calzaghe still has in the game to do all that. An immediate rematch, I'm not sure at all, would have given a much better/more intelligent/flexible Kessler...