Calzaghe vs Hopkins revisited (scoring)

A deaf, dumb and blind man could see calzaghe won the fight some idiots even scored the calzaghe-jones fght for jones :rofl:rofl:rofl

Why can't people just give fghters there due ?

Just say well done :huh

 

calzaghe won from three sides of the ring but alot of people from the one side had b hop winning.
must of been the angle the fight was being watched from.
but watching the tv like i did calzaghe clearly won.
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Loadz more people said hopkins won the fight after hopkins beat pavlik but calzaghe deffo won imo.

 

I watched it as it happened, and felt a draw would have been better suited, i've watched it again twice and each time i have calzaghe taking it by two rounds. If B-hop hadn't scored that knockdown there would be no debate at all.

Alot of people have posted on here before stating how Hopkins landed overall more punches, however every time i've watched it it seems clear to me that Calzaghe was doing the better work in the clinces, was more effective/landed more jabs, did his typical light/fast flurries, and was effective with his straight rights, landed quite a few flush. According to compubox (i'm not sure how reliable or accurate that is) Calzaghe landed almost double what Hopkins did every round.

Alot of people argue that Hopkins work was cleaner, however, again according to compubox, Calzaghe was landed one or two power shots less than Hopkins every round. (Calzaghes powershots being mainly his straight right, which unlike some of his punches he throws correctly). Add that to his overall workrate/aggression and i have him clearly winning the fight.

 

I think Hopkins beat Calzaghe, but only just, 114-113.

He was miles ahead at the halfway point, because Calzaghe couldn't land **** in the first half, and actually landed little of note other than flurries in the second.

Hopkins didn't do himself any favours though with his blatant cheating and running late.

 

I had it 114-113 for Calzaghe, cause Hopkins could have won if he could have kept up what he was doing early in the fight.

 

The people that score the fight for Hopkins are generally either Joe haters or they score on their own criteria rather than the creteria actually used to score boxing.

Some people value clean punching above all else and thsoe people tend to score for Hopkins in this bout, but thats not how boxing is scored. Its akin to someone scoring a golf tounament based on the length of drive alone and then moaning that someone with a shorter drive got the nod because they got round in less shots.

Edit: I'll add that Hopkins winning by a single point IS a valid score but you would have had to give Hopkins everything that was close. Its about as valid as Joe winning 9-3 which is the score you get if Joe gets everything that was close.

 

I value clean, effective punching highly, but also the way they control the fight and various other factors.

Calzaghe fought Hopkins's fight
Calzaghe didn't land ****, all night - meaningful anyway
Hopkins scored a knockdown

 

I think I watched three times and had Calzaghe winning by a couple of points. It was very close early one, but by mid-fight Bernard looked befuddled.

 

I have watched it twice.

That is once too many.

 

115-113 ud joe calzaghe

 

Being kind to Hopkins I had it 114-113 Calzaghe.

Hopkins just couldn't cope with this;

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