Calzaghe vs Hopkins who faced the tougher Opposition Fight by Fight.

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  1. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Comparing Calzaghes WBO reign, to Hopkins IBF reign

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    Calzaghe 7 - 10 Hopkins

    Fight by fight. What a nonsense.
     
    realsoulja, Oct 30, 2010
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  2. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not a bad analysis, except its hard to compare like for like when half of hopkins' opponents were either

    little guys coming up,
    or robert allen

    I'd have Byron Mitchell as tougher than Keith Holmes, and Mario Veit as tougher than Hakkar

    Just goes to show when you look at these things objectively Hopkins has as padded if not moreso than Calzaghe, and Joe beat him head to head in his first fight at 175, yet people argue hopkins is a nailed on top 40 ATG?
     
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  3. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I picked Holmes over Mitchell coz he beat Taylor for the WBC MW, when Taylor was considered the man.

    Also he is a two time MW champ and was defending his belt when Hopkins beat him

    I was gonna put Hakkar over Veit coz he was the European champ aswell as national champ. but his achievements are similar to Veit.
     
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  4. Keueng

    Keueng Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I also have Sakio Bika over ODLH simply because ODLH is not a true MW, Bika however even though never won a title, was always considered being a tough cookie at SMW
     
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  5. drowller

    drowller Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins faced prime Jones - End of thread.
     
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  6. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bika was a Middleweight himself.

    He moved up to SMW later on.

    Bika is inferior to ODLH in terms of skill, also ODLH won a title at the weight while Bika hasnt.
     
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  7. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trinidad win itself outweighs Calzaghes oppositiom
     
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  8. Poirot

    Poirot Active Member Full Member

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    - When Calzaghe fought the best Super-middleweights - they were natural 168 pounders.

    If you remember when he fought Lacy and Kessler - they were being held up as 'thee dogs bollocks', especially Jeff Lacy.
     
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  9. Poirot

    Poirot Active Member Full Member

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    Oscar got a absolute gift against Felix Sturm - so much so the man doesn't even remember where the USA is located a world map.

    - Hopkins is incredible - if I was to call someone a truly intelligent fighter it's B-Hop. But Oscar had no business up at 160 pounds.
     
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  10. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both faced the best that were on offer (except for Calzaghe vs Ottke)
     
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  11. sonny73

    sonny73 Active Member Full Member

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    Ottke was'nt the best,Reid and Brewer were better..they proved that when they went over to Germany and fought him.
     
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  12. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see where your coming from.

    ODLH was not as effective at MW than he was at LMW or WW, but watching his two fights there, he did have skill to be outboxing his opponent at times. Bika even though was rough in the ring, I placed lower than ODLH simply because ODLH was far more skillfull boxer.

    But I get what you mean also that Bika was more effective at SMW than ODLH was at MW.
     
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  13. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ottke wasnt the best at all I agree, but he was the only other guy along with Glen Johnson I can think off that could have stepped in the ring with Calzaghe.
     
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  14. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Ottke didnt want it, his trainer has been qouted saying it was a fight he personally wanted to happen but Sven was never interested, whether this qoute is true or not is debatable but i wouldnt bet against it.:good

    I also believe De La Hoya and Bika offered about the same amount of challenge towards Hopkins and Calzaghe respectively despite the vast gap in skill.
     
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  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Hopkins over the run of his career faced the better fighters... Hell he faced the best (Calzaghe and Jones), but he also lost 4 of those bouts.
     
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