Calzaghe vs Hopkins

I think we will all be partying that night

 

There will be no beat down. It's about as likely as Hopkins knocking Joe out, it would be great to see but won't happen. I will enjoy seeing Joe's dad crying when Hopkins roughs his son up & the ref does nothing because it's not one of Warren's mates though.:good

 

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i think its a 50-50 dan-b you never know calzaghe has never fought anyone as good as hopkins

 

I know you've missed me but you can do better than that.

I don't dispute for a second it will close. I just fancy Hopkins to nick it & to make Joe feel very uncomfortable in there.

 

Its funny when Calzaghe haters like Dan and Scurla keep bringing up the WBO the take away from Calzaghes achievments, even though if you look the difference between Joe's 20 defences and hopkins 20 defences is minimal!

 

I can safely say no one Hopkins fought was worse than Tocker Pudwill. Morrade Hakkar comes closest but at least he had the savvy to last a few rounds. My main beef is the way Joe is getting all these accolades now for doing something he should have done years ago. Plus he never made a move to 175 because he would have been humiliated by Jones.

 

Hakkar at the time was his mandatory. Hopkins naturally wanted to keep all his belts and thats why the fight happened. Joe fought Pudwill because Thomas Tate retired through injury and Pudwill was brought in as a late replacement.

Pudwill was just a club fighter. I dont know where on earth Warren found him from.But ironically he was another Sven Ottke left over.

 

How old was Hopkins when he became undisputed champ again?

Like I have said before, a fighters career will peak later than others. Some a stars from fight 1, some have to work years nbefore they secure the big fight. To say Calzaghe could have unified ealier is naive, because who was he going to unify against...?!

His fights against Lacy and Kessler were bigger event, more exciting and easier to make than a Calzaghe vs Beyer, Lucas, Ottke fight ever was!

Roy Jones may have beaten him, but Roy Jones could beat most middleweights/light heavyweights in history, hardly a good case to slate Calzaghe.





And Tocker Pudwill was an extremely late stand in!:good

 

Yes but Hopkins went out of his way to unify.By the time the middleweight tourney ended King didnt have a choice but for Tito and Hop to fight. Joe made NO ATTEMPTS whatsoever to unify.He simply didnt care about establishing his dominance as the premier man at 68 because he was making easy money and easy defences of the WBO.

 

Hopkins always wanted to unify, just listen to some post fight interviews, he was just frozen out by King because Holmes & Joppy were making him good money with the other two proper belts.

So you're saying Joe only hit his peak with the Lacy fight are you? So all those meaningless defences were necessary were they? Even when Joe was apparently struggling to make 168 he kept defending his bauble.

At least Hopkins gave the Jones fight a shot & would have done so again had the money been right. Joe just talked a lot, his unbeaten run is very cynical in my opinion. I'd have more respect for him if he had one "L" on his record handed to him by Jones than an extra five "W" against crap opposition.

 

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Calzaghe has always been the biggest name around at 68, until Lacy that is. Hopkins was never, Tito was his payday, thats why he fought him nothing to do with anything else.

 

I realise that you appreciate Calzaghe as a boxer but to say that his opposition will predict the outcome of this bout is rather naive. Like many, I wish Calzaghe was plying his trade in a different era or fighters, such as Hopkins hadn't ducked him four or five years ago, when this fight would have much more significance.

Calzaghe is undoubtedly a great, great fighter, that is unquestionable. He sometimes loses his head during fights and gets stuck in the trenches rather than step back and use the tools that most fighters dream of having, but, to me, that is part of his appeal.

Like I said, I wish this fight would have happens a few years ago, or that Calzaghe had the opportunity to fight Benn or Jones but we really shouldn't hold that against him.

Boxing is a tough game, as we all know, and it's appeal is obvious. That is the reason why we all come here and fight like cat and dog over our favourite fighters. I just hope that we can all agree that these guys get all the credit that they deserve for giving us such enjoyment and pain....even when we don't appreciate their offerings.

Let's get ready to rumble.

 

I think you'll find the general consensus from after the Glen Johnson fight was that Hopkins was the worlds best middleweight.

 

Of course he was but I don't think that was what JC was trying to contradict.