joe's wins only look good on paper because the guy made them look good... theres no way that a jones so far past his prime that he just stood there while joe hit him like a moving punching bag should be a credible win.. especially after 3 fights where he beat 2 nobodies and another legend whose even more washed up then he is and fighting at a weight he never even fought at before.... dont be bias for one guy and unbias for another. we beat a prime hopkins twice... he got knocked down by an even older hopkins who almost beat him, we had a draw with a defensive specialist .. other then hopkins nobody on his resume would have beat winky wright.. not lacy and not kessler... kassim ouma and corey spinks would have gave anyone a problem with their hand speed at that weight... lacy had absolutely 0 handspeed or boxing skills what makes him better then corey spinks a former champ even at a lower division who is much more skilled... come on now... joe's resume being compared to jermain taylor who is 6 years younger.. and jermaine is taking all comers .. not handpicking fights and refusing rematches... he had enough balls to rematch a fight that people thought he lost in hopkins...
two very disputed wins against hopkins and a disputed win against spinks. he couldn't even beat spinks clearly. a man the Zab judah Ko'd in 9 rounds. bunema is a 154lb fighter ouma is a 154lb fighter. spinks at 147. and look at ouma since then.what has Winkey is a 154lb fighter proof by his struggle with soliman. joe smashed 7 shades of **** out of lacy. taylor and ruined lacy in far less impressive fashion. his 2 wins over hopkins do not overshadow the long list of fighters joe has beaten. just becuase joe beat euro doesn't mean those euro's weren't bettere fighters then the lil men taylor manged to beat.
Calzaghe, of course. At least he wins his fights clearly, doesn't rely on the HBO suits to bail him out.
Like I said, Lacy was never good. Anybody who has classic fights that appear on ESPN with Rubin Williams and Omar Sheika can't be that good. If he was the wrecking machine that he was made out to be he would have wrecked them.
joe clearly beat hop and took over after 4 rounds and did not gas out in the championship rounds. kessler would desimate Winkey so would Mitchell and Eubank . and spniks would of been ko'd by kessler, lacy,mitchell,eubank, hopkins, and the past his prime jones. and joe was far from hi prime when he beat kessler, jones, and b-hop. i was not being biased at all. i was pointing out the wins and what those fighters had done up to that point before the fights. it's called facts :deal
How would Kessler desimate Winky when nobody ever has? Of course he would be KO'd. Spinks is 2 or 3 weight classes below them, he is a junior middlewight. Joe's prime was in or around 2006 and he has faded a bit since then but he is not past it like Jones is.
He handed Bhop his first loss in like 10 years. Twice in a row. JT beat Bhop the second fight more clearly than Joe DISPUTEDLY beat Bhop.
so having balls is utallizing a rematch clause so he could fight to survive rather then win. yup your right. so does joe have to give everyone a rematch ? thats right he has't had to use so since he's a winner!!!! he hasn't been brutally ko'd . and when he was knocked down he got back up to win. everytime after a win there is always new challange for JOE. first it was lacy then it was kessler then he fought hopkins now jones. hop was suppose to be shot but then he schooled KP who brutaly ko'd Taylor then UD him over 12. and jones had racked up 3 wins 1 against a nobody the 2nd agaist an undefeated 168lb contender at the time and then an old fat tito. guess what joe was old and past his prime to but he still managed to .
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He didn't have to exercise the clause because he was moving up to 168. He was also fighting in a non-title match in the second time around with KP with a high risk and no reward. He was truly looking to avenge his only loss in his career and failed. Joe was protected in his career which is why he hasn't been brutally KO'd by a real threat like Pavlik. Kessler was too limited to trouble Joe, Lacy was never good, Hopkins doesn't have a lot of power and Jones is far past his best. Guess what, Joe wasn't so far past it in his fights with Hopkins and Jones. He wasn't at his best but he isn't shot.
if you had ever seen joe fight you would know his priem was between 2002-2005 he actually started to decline in 2006 and he's still managed to win