Joe said it in his recent video interview. Why? Taylor has no defence mate, bad footwork, can't keep a gameplan and so on and so on. No comparison. Kessler is a much better fighter than Pavlik, so this whole post is ludicris. Joe's the worst style possible for Pavlik, what are you talking about? How does he outsmart Kessler, outbox him, but can't do so to Pavlik or worse? I don't understand what you guys even watch. Pavlik is sloppy and slow and had Taylor's number more so due to Taylor's major flaws, flaws that he wouldn't find in the Calzaghe/Kessler/Dawson class of fighter.
Pavlik KO11 Calzaghe: In order to beat Pavlik a fighter would have to be strong enough to force Kelly to fight off the back foot, or fast enough to run and pot shot for 12 rounds. Calzaghe is neither. Joe might be slick enough to lower Kelly's connect rate which is usually quite high, and that might allow him to make it beyond the normal 7 or 8 rounds, but that won't improve his own connect rate, which is rather low. Four of Kelly's last 6 opponents had never been stopped before, and even with that Kelly's average rounds per fight is still only 3.5 rounds. Calzaghe has a very good chin, but I guarantee you it is not Pavlik proof. Furthermore, JC doesn't hit hard enough to rattle Pavlik. Kelly would stay calm and on his plan against Joe, and Pavlik's plan is always the same; back your opponent into a corner or put him against the ropes, turn the ring into a phone booth, and knock him out. Joe simply isn't strong enough or fast enough to keep Kelly from doing that for more than 10 rounds. And he certainly has nothing in his arsenal to keep Kelly off of him for 12 full rounds, but remember, if he saw the opening bell for round 10, he would be doing what no other fighter has ever done! However, this fight probably won't ever happen. Pavlik, at age 25, doesn't need Joe, but Joe, at age 35, is still trying to create a legacy. when Joe sees the final destruction of Jermain Taylor happen in a one sided 4 or 5 round beat down, he will look elsewhere for legacy fights. Boo
Amsterdam this is somewhat saddening as most of your previous posts have been respected...however your Joe C bias is blinding your rational judgement...I've said I like Joe but Ive given Joe the credit he deserves however You say Pavlik is sloppy well so is Joe(you can call it awkward if you like)Being graceful is not important unless your a PBF fan..Both Joe and Pavlik have a good sense of timing and distance I would say it's the worst style matchup possible for Joe Kessler is not smart....skilled yes...smart no(Joe and Pav adapt very well Kessler doesnt) It's known universally that Pavlik is more powerful than either Kessler or Calzaghe(Calzaghes a no brainer..Kessler has balance but uses no body movement or momentum when he punches as Pavlik does) Please stop trying to hype Kessler only to more validate Joes victory and legacy its more than laughable.....I don't get it. Pavlik and Joe have an equally sturdy chin There are really only 2 ways Pavlik gets beaten they are: A slick boxer with power, great timing and movement(think prime Roy Jones or a Cory Spinks with power) Or someone who can outbrawl Pavlik smartly and with more power(Miranda doesnt count..he's not stupid just not that bright. Think a bigger Shane Mosley... Joe is none of these Joe is Joe and thats great and why I like him but Pavlik beats him inside the distance..honestly I would give Joe credit if he made it past the 9th round. Cheers:good
I like Kelly Pavlik I do, but then again I like Burger King but it aint fine food is it. Calzaghe has too much class, and that class difference is obvious to any real fan of boxing. Whether your from Kansas or Cardiff the fact is Calzaghe has such a gulf in class its not funny. Any other opinion isnt based in Boxing, its based in bollocks.
I'm afraid your opinion is based on bollocks...Just ask Naseem Hamed if Class wins fights This has to be the dumbest post ever Your right the Cardiff Ice Rink Champ has more class so he must winatsch
JC by UD. :yep Kesller is a much more complete fighter than Pavlik peeps, don't get lost in the hype.
Whats a very talented yet stupidly selfserving Hamed got to do with anything? I like Pavlik, hits like a hammer and keeps you under pressure. But that isnt enough at world level s it? Otherwise Rocky Balboa would have been a real fighter from Phily and not a character from a film. Class counts.
You like burger king? What the **** has Arthur Abraham got to do with this thread *******. I suppose you agree with Calzaghe recently comparing himself to Hagler and Marciano; What a load of ****. Boo
kessler has zero power? come on! you got to push your bias aside and look at the guy. he throws the crispest right hands in whole smw and lhw. that pavlik thing just got outta control.
Kessler has power but average power.. as I've mentioned before Kessler doesnt use movement, rhythem, or momentum when he punches he's almost too textbook of a fighter.. Kessler does have a decent sense of timing, a good jab, and very good left hook(when he uses it)...I never thought anything special about his right though? And Pavlik is very much in control and if Kessler was as mentally sharp and as active as Pavlik he just might've beaten Joe Might've don't count for **** though:good
Yea your right Slappy is one hell of a KO artist...man what a great finisher he is He's the greatest Cardiff Ice Rink Champ ever:good You sound like the pivot man at a circle jerk at Camp Calzaghe
Whats with the Calzaghe hate? I dont hate very many boxers, due to the fact that the emotional wellbeing of multimillionaire sportsmen is no concern of mine. Relax, otherwise im gonna post a WWE forum link so everyone can ***** none stop.