You can't just assume he'll do that. It's not that easy to just land fluent shots at will. If it could happen then Jones wouldn't have beat Toney or Hopkins.
All you have to back up you thinking Calzaghe will win is work rate. Calzaghe couldn't get off those punches against Jones. As soon as Calzaghe started throwing, he'd start getting hit. Jones would slow him down. It's not rocket science... Did you ever see anyone while Jones was in his prime beat him with work rate? Calzaghe would be afraid to throw punches like he did against bums like Manfredo, because he'd know Jones would hit him back MUCH HARDER. JC can't fight his fight against someone faster and stronger than him...it's relatively simple logic. Show me a fight (barring a freak knockout), where the slower, less powerful, less skillful, less athletic, less awkward, etc. fighter beat the one with all of those advantages over the course of 12 rounds IN THEIR PRIME. It doesn't happen... Besides, and this is plain and simple, CALZAGHE IS NOT FAST ENOUGH TO STOP JONES. Jones makes most welterweights look slow...
Good call...except Mayorga had more power in both hands than Forrest, was probably more awkward (as awkward as Forrest is), and seriously had Forrest afraid of him (and Mayo was in Forrest's head big time). Jones is MUCH FASTER than Calzaghe, hits MUCH HARDER, and is MUCH MORE AWKWARD.
this is kind of a crazy topic yea calzaghe is a great fighter now and has been for quite a while,but jones was really something else,his speed,his style his movement was just scary good,that man should have realised his potential and become a top 10 ATG. jones by a long UD or even ko and this is coming from a calzaghe fan!
What about when Hassim Rachman beats Lennox Lewis Buster Duglas beat Mike Tyson Calzaghe is Lot Faster than you may think u talk like he is just to slow , he fast and he showed it! Calzaghe would be affraid no way would he even back down from anyboxer juswatch the way he lands fluent shots 1 on 1 toe to toe , RJJ wouldnt no what to do with a guy who fights as FAST AS HE IS, Cazlaghe would get hit but so would jones and u talk like Calzaghe has baloons for hands they hurt and cut just like roys , roy will feel pounchs aswell and he will get hit from a guy who is just as fast as he is u cant stop all them punchs thts simple logic! I gotta feeling where not going to agree anytime soon on the outcome of this fight right?
well u sho aint lernin me no knolidge ne1 got a prob den go lernn swum hukked n fonixs.. Anyway, RJJ in his prime exceeds JC in every category. He had far superior power, he had superior hand speed and reflexes. RJJ dominated his division. Don't get me wrong, JC is great, but RJJ is a legend. There isn't a single category that Joe has an advantage. "He's a volume puncher", like Hatton said on 24/7, Floyd hits those pads in succesion, but there isn't a fighter in the world thats just gonna stand there and let you hit him with all those shots. RJJ has 1pnchnckout pwr n both hnds, something Joe does not. He had more speed (hand, foot, and reflexes) than Joe does. RJJ beat both Bernard Hopkins and James Toney with ease, 2 names on his resume that Joe has no (not even close despite the european propaganda machine's efforts) equivalent. RJJ destroyed opponents, he was like previously stated, a FREAK. His athletiscism, is hardly rivaled by any fighter in history. He was simply better at everything than Joe. And Joe's southpaw stance? Hmmph its lead rights all day.
That's about how I look at it. Jones also has a slight reach advantage. The only areas you can argue in favor of Joe are 1) workrate, 2) chin and 3) heart. For one thing, you don't really know about chin, because Roy never showed any chin issues at 168 or lower, although you could argue he just didn't get tested enough. Joe has a proven beard. As for heart, that's another area where Roy simply wasn't pushed enough to know. Having said that, he showed a ton of heart as a old man in the first Tarver fight, and also in the disastrous third Tarver fight when he was hurt badly and pushed into the ropes, before fighting back. As for workrate, I think this actually works against Calzaghe. The way to beat Jones was to fight in a way that would force him to lower his punch output, which could be accomplished by: 1) the threat of fierce power, particularly counterpunching (Roy did respect the power and craft of Hopkins and Toney), 2) unorthodox, tight defense (Griffin I, for a while) or 3) evasive and ATG slick boxing (this is only theoretical, as Roy never saw anyone slick enough to outbox him). Roy looked offensively inept only once prior to moving to 175, and that was against Hopkins. Like Mayweather/Hatton, Bernard was able to use his quick feet to push Roy backward and make him uncomfortable. However, he was always smart and knew better than to engage Jones in a firefight, and thus he was even more passive inept than Jones. Calzaghe's aggression and offensive mentality sets him up for a more devastating defeat than those suffered by Hopkins and Toney, who I think everyone will agree at least are competitive with Calzaghe in a PfP sense. The axiom is that speed kills, and for all the mistakes Calzaghe has made and continues to make (leaving himself open on the inside, squaring up, etc.), his speed has enabled him to overwhelm opponents and essentially beat the offense out of them. So, here's the $64,000 question: What happens when Calzaghe encounters a guy with faster hands, quicker reflexes, more reach, better accuracy and significantly greater power, and Joe makes those same mistakes? At best, Joe wins a few rounds by outworking Roy while he takes a break against the ropes. More likely, Calzaghe gets countered to death and eats the leaping left hook everytime he makes a defensive mistake at range. Jones TKO 11, after battering Joe starting in about the 9th round.
People say joe hasn't faced anyone as fast as RJJ .Well the same goes for RJJ hes never faced anyone as fast as joe.
1) I SAID "BARRING A FREAK KNOCKOUT"...Rahman was a one punch KO (thus freak knockout), and Tyson was out of shape and a headcase for Douglas (besides he was a 42:1 underdog) 2) It's not that Calzaghe would want to back down, he'd have to. Calzaghe would be hit harder than ever by the fastest man he's ever fought. If Calzaghe fought Jones like he fought Lacy, Manfredo, or Kessler, he'd be KO'ed, plain and simple. I gotta feeling where not going to agree anytime soon on the outcome of this fight right? 3) To call Calzaghe as fast as Jones is laughable. I won't even argue that. Jones was faster period. Check out some RJJ highlight tapes if you want. I doubt you'd have one person (maybe some JC nuthugger) who would say Calzaghe is faster... Can you really just not admit that JC isn't the best 168 lb. fighter ever???? Because, he's not!
Its fitting that posters who actually know what they're talking about have entered this topic.. Calzaghe fanboys were out in force on the first few pages..
Haha A just Cant Do it man! I want to agrre but evreytime a think of the fight i see a W for JC I dnt agree Douglas was in evreyshape not as good as tyson and besides you never mentioned mentally stable in your list look at my point of view he never fought anybody with the pressure of JC He May be Slower but not that Slower, Cazlaghe was Speed Demon before his hands and remember prime was when calzaghe had his speed Calzaghe would give this fight all or nothing and who knows they would both go for broke in the early rounds or also a upset on the cards because dont excuse it Calzaghe could also box aswell as just use his speed he wouldnt be plain and simple KO JONES , ofcourse not Calzaghe would fight his fight not jones's Its To bad that we wernt talking like this 7 years ago because i would love to have a wager on this with you if the fight was gunna happen ofcourse Least I give my point accross why I think Calzaghe will win!