Calzaghe vs RJJ's resume

I see him having trouble with the obvious ones. Hopkins,Toney and Hill. McCallum was older when Roy fought him, so I think Calzaghe would beat him. Hopkins was young when Roy beat him and I think that is pickem for Calzaghe. Hill? I think Hill has a chance and another pickem fight. Toney? I think Calzaghe beats him the night Jones did. I think Jones beat those 4 fighters better than Calzaghe would, but I think Calzaghe still does well. Against Hopkins,Toney,Hill Jones is 3-0.. I think Calzaghe would be something like 1-2. or 2-1 not bad.

 

Calzaghe is God!




(in England)

 

Is he ****. Wales maybe but even then I doubt it.

 

Calsloppy is well....Calsloppy

 

Joe is capable of beating them all except Ruiz at HW, no idea how Joe would look at the 193 pounds that Roy weighed for that fight. McCallum and Hill were past it when Roy fought them. He beats the Toney that Roy beat that night hands down. You could argue he already beat a better version of Hopkins, if not he's certainly capable of beating that version. The likes of Del Valle, Gonzalez, Woods, Johnson all get beat hands down.
Griffin and Tarver are good fighters, but I would back Joe against them.

Truth is, Roy's record for a fighter of his talent isn't really that impressive. He under-achieved for sure. Joe's saving grace is the run he went on at the end of his career, and the fact he kept his perfect record.

Prime Calzaghe v Prime Roy Jones is an interesting fight!

 

He would lose to toney,hopkins(last match coulda went both ways,i scored it for bhop),tarver,woods....

 

You're right, Calzaghe would be getting his ass beat by Jones in their prime. THAT is quite interesting.

 

:deal

 

Not really, Calzaghe was a very skillful fighter, who had great conditioning, a decent chin, could adapt to his opponent, fight through adversity and had the physical attributes to compete with Jones, especially if Jones isn't using steroids. Joe Calzaghe is a far better fighter then the likes of Glen Kelly, Derrick Harmon, Clinton Woods, Rick Frazier, the caliber of opponents that Roy 'clowned' in his prime.

 

Woods :nut

 

Dude get off joes nuts. If he were too get 3 rounds of Roy like Bhop did I'd be shocked.
In terms of Joe c on RJJS resume, he beats them except Ruiz, Hopkins and tarver + toney are tough ones too call. Calzaghe is either extremely underrated or overrated on this forum :-(

 

'Get off Joe's nuts' because I suggested Calzaghe-Jones would be a competitive fight?

Why couldn't he get 3 rounds off RJJ? Joe had a great ring IQ, could adapt to his opponent, had an iron chin, and had the physical attributes to compete with Jones (especially if Roy isn't using steroids). He beats Hopkins, Tarver was good, but let's remember He lost to Glen Johnson and Eric Harding in his prime. The Toney that Roy beat was a shadow of himself, slow, sloppy and Calzaghe at his prime weight (SMW) would expose his poor conditioning.

We don't know how JC would handle weighing 193, but Ruiz was hardly a decent fighter. He was slow, plodding and feather fisted.

I believe Jones to be overrated, he had no plan B and is very fragile.

 

lol getting bored of these threads. The obvious answer is that Cal would go the distance in a close points loss even in Wales at SMW, but its not conclusive. And I would agree that Cal takes more than 3 rounds. He would get the late rally rounds that he often does, and he would get midfight credit too as Jones takes his usual nap. I'd say 6-7 rounds RJJ, 4 Cal, 1 or 2 even.


outspeed and outaccuracied and outstrengthed, Joe would once again dig deep by producing a MUCH MORE MASSIVE workrate than Jones, but with only a fraction of his hit rate. Will that work to win in Wales? Possibly, but it would be an Ottke style travesty.

Cal is unlikely to hurt Jones, hes too fast to get hit, but he just might get lucky and hurt him butthe evidence suggests no, prime Jones pretty much never got dropped. Jones is unlikely to hurt Cal at SMW (Calzaghe was only frail at LH),and unlikely to drop him - Cal was only occasionally floored at SMW.

70% Jones decision
30% Cal in Wales, 15-20% elsewhere.

Obviously LH Jones would stop Calzaghe, Joe is too slight to dominate in that weight category.


As to the rest, Calzaghe would beat them all except Toney (50% Toney win by decision, 20% draw, 30% Cal), McCallum (prime McC beats Cal 80% of the time) and Ruiz KOs Calzaghe everytime - Joe gets vulnerable to old men at weights above SMW, he cant cope there.

And yes Bernard Hopkins would outbox Calzaghe over 12 rounds, not just 5, if he was at full fitness, that should be obvious to everyone here.

 

In the fight with Jones and old and washed up jones put Calzaghe down in the first round. A prime Jones would finished the job.