Calzaghe vs Ward break down of strengths? Very even across board

hes not giving him props, not to the extent you are giving props. I'm afraid hes not going to back you up, you are on your own here.


noone will back youup here.

 

number 1 for ring magazine hahaha nice one mate.


froch was post pascal and facing taylor hahaha nice one mate.

and hahaha I am claiming JC didnt fight primes, and he didnt. you are wrong again,but feel free to lie that he fought primes. hahahaha! its funny when you do.

 

And anyone backs what you say up?

@Loudon and @DoubleJ have actual arguments which I appreciate, you on the other hand are a complete joke.

All you do is highjack people's posts, people who have way more knowledge than you and try and turn it into a troll fest.

As for your own posts they're a complete mess.

@Sugar 88 perfectly quoted earlier

Calzaghe has arguably the most devoted hater of all time in Herol.

That says it all.

 

Actually Calzaghe fought Hopkins in April, that May Froch faced Rybecki....owned again Gump.

 

It was pretty fun, actually. Let's move on to other threads.

 

I don't think that he did get a gift in the first fight.

Regarding the rematch, he didn't turn dirty. That fight has caused so much controversy, I can't tell you how many times I've watched it back and analysed it. And on doing so, I know that it's a complete myth that Andre had to resort to fouling. There were only 2 crystal clear low blows in the whole fight. The majority of them landed on the logo on the top of Kovalev's shorts, which Weeks was happy with as per his pre-fight instructions. And only a few of the others were borderline. In some of the rounds where Andre had tagged him 100% clean to the body, Kovalev was desperately looking in vain towards Weeks, in the hope that he'd do something. It was a clear sign of a man who was desperate with an empty gas tank. Also, go back and count how many rabbit punches Kovalev landed. People like to whine about the stoppage, but like I told you yesterday, that last shot which definitely was low, was the straw that broke the camel's back. Kovalev had nothing left to give at that point, and he was slumped over taking unanswered shots. That fight was getting stopped whether or not that last shot had landed on the line, the hip, the ribs, the arms or the gloves. Week's had seen enough after that big right hand. And that last shot actually robbed Andre of a cleaner win.

That win trumps Joe out working a 43 old LHW.

If you want to say that Bernard was Kovalev's best win, then that's fine. But you must have thought that that version of Bernard was still pretty capable, as you've just listed his previous wins to prove to Herol that he wasn't shot.

I could also ask you how many top LHW wins Bernard possesses. His best win was against Tarver. And although he performed brilliantly, there was question marks over how fit Tarver was, having been inactive and dropping a considerable amount of weight after starring in the Rocky movie.

 

If you watched that fight, you'd know that he only turned up the heat in the very last round.

People claimed he was just a puncher before the fight, and it seemed obvious to me that he went out there to try and prove to people that he also possessed some ring craft.

 

I have no problem with Kovalevs win over Hopkins other than it was 6 years after Calzaghes.

Also take into consideration the people who want to create Kovalev into this unstoppable force off the back of beating Hopkins, Pascal and Chilemba as his best wins?

Yet Calzaghe according to people avoided everyone for a fight with an old man, the same old man that Kovalev gets his rep from.....do you see where I'm coming from?

 

Kovalev is a better boxer than people give him credit for although I do think as a puncher he gets a little overrated.

Beterbiev is heavier handed and I think both Bivol and Gvozdyk are better punchers.

But again he couldn't put away a 49yo and the reason for it is that he wanted to show people his "ring craft"? If that's the case why did he choose to do it in his biggest ever fight?

 

Why?

Mate, I've already explained why twice now, and in detail.

Joe only had 2 fights at the weight:

Bernard and Roy.

He scraped by Bernard by out working him.

He then beat Roy after saying in his own 2007 autobiography that he didn't want to fight Roy as he'd been shot since 2004.

Andre has 3 wins at the weight:

Kovalev x 2 and Barrera.

Barrera was nothing special like the version of Roy, but he systematically broke down a prime LHW who was a huge puncher.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

The Kovalev rematch win alone is better than Joe's 2 wins at the weight.


Please explain to me how scraping by a 43 year old LHW on workrate, trumps stopping a prime, big punching LHW?

It can't.

 

I actually look forward to sporadically reading your crap. You're a figure of fun for me. I occasionally click unignore on a Calzaghe thread and without fail you're on it like a rabid little fangirl spouting the same nonsense you always are.

What bothers you is the success - a number of years ago now - of a retired champion. You can't let it go as evidenced by the countless obsessive posts you spammed this board with. It's weird but you're a funny little thread that's now ingrained in fabric of the site. Like MVC's attention seeking Mayweather posts, Farmboxer's robotic catchphrases and Dino's equally devoted and misguided Wlad bashing you have your own little niche here as Calzaghe's most irrational ever hater.

Well done, what a life you're leading!

 

It can considering at that point Hopkins was arguably considered better and more high profile than the Kovalev that Ward beat.

Hopkins was a modern legend just coming off the Tarver win, went onto beat high profile opponents after JC.

Now Kovalev again and I'm a fan, I lost all the sportsbook money on the 2 fights, came in with the reputation in retrospect off beating C level opposition outside of Hopkins and perhaps Pascal.

Through into the mix that Kovalev arguably outboxed and dropped Ward in their first fight and then was in the end of some dodgy shenanigans in the run up regarding his trainer and Wards team, then the dodgy referring then did the real Kovalev show up in the rematch?

If argue that the Hopkins and Kovalev fight are pretty evenly matched in comparison.

Anyway I'm out for now I'm not even a fan of either fighter, but 3:10 to Yuma is downloaded, the beers are cold and I'm off to Budapest tomorrow so I'm on my way padre....off on my rounds.

 

Why does this loser @HerolGee feel the need to bombard this Calzaghe thread and reply to every single pro Calzaghe comment.

 

They were all tune ups for him.

Smith was specifically a tune up due to ring rust, and the others were in preparation for taking on a huge challenge in Kovalev.

Who's to say that Joe wouldn't have fought Kovalev? Come on now. Did you follow Joe's career? He killed himself to make SMW for years, where he defended a lightly regarded WBO belt 21 times, when he could have moved up to LHW at any point to try and target more recognisable fighters.

He's on record as saying that he didn't want tough fights and that had no interest in fighting the likes of Tarver, Pavlik or Dawson, as they didn't excite him and they hadn't warranted a fight with him. He played it safe nearly all of his career. He was happy to fight the Salem's and Veit's of the world, even when he was in his 30's.

The keyword here is: 'IF'

Now IF he'd have fought Kovalev to his full capabilities, whilst being 100% fit and confident, then along with yourself, I think that Joe could have beaten him. And me and you are in a minority. But I can say with full confidence, that there'd be more chance of me winning the lottery than what there would have been for Joe having taken that fight.

 

I guess people think that Ward should of lost the first and the second ended with a controversial finish so don't count them as anything that should be given too much weight.

RJJ was a poor opponent for Calzaghe so gets little credit from me for that. Hopkins was a good win but only one win. He was getting on by the time he moved to 175 and so didn't have the impact there he could of have had.

Both fighters did their best work at 168.