Calzaghe vs Wlad

So which top fighters did Wlad beat? Seriously am I missing something?

I am not saying Joe is a better fighter (I think he is) but you say the best guy Joe beat was Hopkins who was a top 5 p4p fighter when Joe beat him and has been top 5 area after as well.

I could bring up Lacy who at the time was an undefeated young champ who everyone said would blow Joe away!! Joe ruined him!

Joe beat Kessler, another young up and comer. A seasoned Chris Eubank who whilst past his prime was still a tricky and tough opponent for a relative new comer.

 

Sounds a bit ignorant, what your saying. Ottke had 21 title defences and won WBA & IBF SMW titles. 22 title fights and retired undefeated
Calzaghe had 21 title defences and won WBO WBA WBC IBF & THE RING SMW titles and THE RING LHW title. 24 title fights and retired undefeated. Joe fought out of Wales but also fought in England, Scotland, Denmark, Germany and America a couple of times

 

Calzaghe is the better fighter so him of course.

 

for the bolded yea, you are missing if you are dumb or Brit.

Watch their records.
Joe has like one decent b-level fighter in his prime, Mikkel Kessler. He got 1 GREAT fighter at his resume who was almost half century old for christ sake and received arguanly gift from it, but i give you that win is a win. but this certain win, a ONE Great win isnt getting him nowhere at his all time status.

Joe has fuc..ing padded resume fighting literally tomato cans in his back yard and hiding behind his bs Frank_warren_belt.

Chris Byrd is better win that Jeff LAcy or Mikkel Kessler. Jeff Lacy isnt any better than Samuel Peter Ruslan Chagaev is equal with these two Chums Kessler and Lacy.

His win over Chris Eubank doesnt mean **** all, Wlad's win over Ray Mercer was better.'

Wlad has yet many big fights coming, Haye, Povetkin, Adamek and some acknowledged contenters.

****ing Calzaghe's young lions were Mario Veits and Tocker Pudwils at HIS REIGNatsch:rofl

 

How it sounds ignorant? Ottke got some nasty gifts as well Joe did and both shared their history of back yard fighting.

But I do Rate Ottke Higher because Ottke Had no intentions to Fight Over the hill ATG's and Ottke did not even try to make those Embarrassing fake attempts to conquest the Boxing World.

Conman what a Conman.
Dawson is waiting for you, slappy Joe.:yep

 

He may have big fights coming but the question was if he retires tomorrow.

Lacy and Kessler at the time were seen as top top fighters, Lacy got ruined by Joe and injury and Kessler by inactivity and the loss to Joe hurt him mentally.

Chris Eubank does mean ****, he still had a granite chin and for a young fighter he would always be a tricky prospect. Tocker Pudwill is **** but I saw quite a few Mario Veit fights and he was pretty good not world class but he wasn't **** either.

I think the first Byrd fight is probably Wlads best win but he is nowhere near the Hopkins that Joe fought or Kessler to be fair.

I really rate Wlad but I would pick Joe's resume over Wlads right now.

 

Fair enough ill be wasting time trying to put points over to you, but the over the hill ATG was P4P #3 so how over the hill is that and Dawson chose to fight at LHW when Joe was SMW champ instead of becoming an established SMW, now Joes retired Dawson is talking of fighting at SMW. Odd that

 

:good:good

 

There was nothing to be ruined. Lacy was meriocre fighter always. He was a Hype job. I have seen his fights before Joe and after Joe, Nothing was changed.

I did went over board when I said Wlad is miles above him now. But Wlad doesnt need to do much and he Joe is clowd of dust far behind...

Emmanuel Stewart described Joe Calzaghe the best in his Fight against Bernard Hopkins.. "...at this moment Joe isnt doing anything more than Amateurish style Slapping...". Man, that is EMBARRASSING...

 

Waldomir Klitschko would duck him and disappear into a crowd like he always does.

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Funny ****

 

Wlad - Reigned in the HW division, had some clean clear victories over undefeated top ranked competitors.

This is the "joy" if you like of the HW division - when you're a HW, you don't get asked "Why didn't you go down or up a division to face someone else?"

 

Yet, Manny Steward also said during the Kessler telecast "Calzaghe is one of the greatest fighters I've seen"

 

I agree with this.

 

Wladimir 54(48KO) - 0 - 3

Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Ibragimov, Chris Byrd, Samuel Peter, Ray Mercer

above 80% KO ratio and best KO vs Byrd.

Calzaghe 46(32) - 0 - 0

Kessler, Lacy, Hopkins, Eubank, Reid, RJJ

around 70% KO ratio and his best KO is not in his top 5 wins, that shows he been Knocking out bums all his life.

Wlad dominated a weak HW division.

Calzaghe dominated a weak SMW division.

Wladimir > Calzaghe IMO.