Calzaghe wars, diminishing intelligence: case study included

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by heidegger, Nov 16, 2008.


  1. heidegger

    heidegger Guest

    :yep 'War' is exactly what has emerged out of the debates surrounding Joe Calzaghe and his place in boxing. The debates mirror what you see election campaigns - information is not thought about, it is funneled into an existing paradigm. Partisans do not consider events on their own basis but on how they can best be deployed in the propaganda campaign for the camp. There is no place for subtlety, and no need for truth. It's about winning converts over to the cause. We even have a new type of hugger - the kamikazi troll. This is an alais of a Brit or American that has signed up just to post pure exagerated hate and huggery. An example of this is the user Rickx1. This 'noob' has racked up over 200 posts each of which is mindless and extreme, either promoting Hatton and Calzaghe, or denunciating Americans. There are some American examples as well however this one is a good typical example. i mean, you could throw the comment 'Americans are innate peadophiles and David Haye has a yummy ass' in amongst these and it would not seem out of turn. lol at non-thinking existence:

    'Barret is a dangerous fighter, That's why he did not throw combos, Haye has 1 punch ko power so he did what he had to do.
    Very impressive victory. I actually believe this guy will be better than lennox lewis, But we will see
    .'

    Re: Did Mayweather 'school' Hatton
    'No he had a bad trainer then if he fought floyd now he would beat him.
    He has learned a lot.'


    Top 5 Most skillful current boxer????
    Calzaghe
    Hopkins
    Kessler


    'All american fighters are boring. They just don't deliver action packed fights, Its bad for the sport, Im glad europe is getting more and more champions, Because america is going down the hill.'

    'Calzaghe would still defeat a prime roy. The guy doesn't loose man,
    He's to intelligent in the ring, To slick for any roy that shows up.'

    'I see joe stopping dawson maybe 10th round tko.'

    Re: David Haye - where do you see him 3 years from now?
    'Being undisputed heavyweight champion, Without a doubt, Hes in too good of shape for all those out of shape heavyweights.'

    Re: who is the most feared fighter of present???
    'Joe Calzaghe'

    'Lol **** off, Your just jealous of not being welsh:good'

    'No way prime jones beats calzaghe, The guy cant loose man, Hes special, The harder the fight the better he performs, Its simple'

    'Calzaghe fighting dawson would be a massacre, Dawson would get destroyed man.
    '

    'Calzaghe would beat a prime jones, Calzaghe let him hit him because calzaghe did not feel roys punches and this will give joe a mental advantage'

    Re: It's a shame Calzaghe v. Jones is not an 8 round fight - it would be much better!
    'Calzaghe could do 15 rounds'

    Re: What if Joe Moved up to HW?

    'no heavyweight would even be able to hit him, Calzaghe would make all heavyweights look like 50year old amateurs. Calzaghe already has a place in the HOF. He has nothing left to prove. Calzaghe can hit, He just used his speed advantage against roy to win a easy decision.'

    Kessler vs Dawson
    'Kessler would dominate a dawson, To accurate, fast and powerful.
    Dawson would look like a rag doll in there.
    '

    'Haye will unify the heavyweight division froch will unify super middleweight when he beats pascal.'

    Re: Hattons hands look fast...
    Hatton will kill paulie.

    'European fighters will always reign supreme and are getting stronger every year. '

    hatton v judah?
    'Hatton will be unbeatable with his new trainer, His old one lacked the knowledge to make hatton a better fighter.'

    'The judges gave the fight to Mayweather but everybody knows Castillo should of won that fight. Calzaghe is a league above floyd. '

    'Calzaghe can hit.
    If jones gets lazy on the ropes its goodbye roy.'


    'Calzaghe will always be better than mayweather'

    'Calzaghe is better than floyd, Joe has better movement and can dodge punches better'

    'Joe said his hands feel good, Therefor he will use fall power and when he uses this he is capable of anything'

    Calzaghe is hard to hit so roy wanted to be precise with as many punches as possible or he would get tired quickly. That is why roy did not throw many, Man calzaghe dominated his ass.

    Re: Best P4P ever?
    'Joe Calzaghe'

    'All the british fighters will win the yank'

    Fastest Boxers P4P Top 10 - Based On Speed
    'Calzaghe is number 1'

    Joe Calzaghe the #1 P4P king (And hes British!)
    'Calzaghe is number 1 p4p,......Also for you who think pacman is number 1 when he looses to delahoya you have no argument but admit calzaghe is number 1.'

    'Calzaghe beat hopkins more convincingly than 2 of the judges had it,
    I had it 117-11'


    'Calzaghe would catch jones even off the ropes in his prime. '

    Haye has a very large frame, Im tellin ya, This guy has a great chin, Great stamina(easily went 12rounds with ishmael abdoul) and has amazing power, This guy is goin on to the great things.
    Hes gonna unify the division with ease, The guys in amazing shape..
    .[I bet his **** tastes nice?]

    Top 5 boxers in our era??
    1:Calzaghe
    2:Jones
    3:Hopkins
    4:Mayweather
    5:Lewis


    Re: Calzaghe Vs Ruiz
    'Nah calzaghe would outbox his ass easy for 12rounds'

    Re: ***LATEST Ring Magazine Pound-for-Pound rankings***
    'I'm not suprised no american boxer is in the top 3, Whats gonna happen when hopkins retires?
    Proberly none in the top 5.
    '
     
  2. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  3. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Those two posts alone are a reason to wipe this alias off of the face of this board. :twisted:

    And I'm not even a Mayweather fan.



    PS: The "kamikaze-troll" reference was a classic moment. I think it will stick. :clap:
     
  4. heidegger

    heidegger Guest

    It's very fitting. i mean I'm giving this kook the benifit of the doubt, assuming that his posts are far too stupid to be sincere. The strategy seems to be to ram as much sensless bull**** into peoples brains as you can and hope a little of it sticks.
     
  5. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    This sounds right. But him posting under an alias, so that he can just bash anything american (or non-british), could also be the case.

    Either way, I say lets kill it.
     
  6. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    You're awfully generous. Great thread. This xenophobic, partisan crap definitely detracts from the quality of the discussion. :clap:
     
  7. heidegger

    heidegger Guest

    You might be correct. He might just be a mental midget.
     
  8. Sai

    Sai Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Meh its a bit give and take. Theres some ****ing awful posts on both sides of the debate. Check this **** for instance:


    The USA is the strongest country in at 168 right now, sorry to burst your bubble.

    taylor, dirrell, ward, andrade, lacy, green.

    Froch is a total unknown on the world stage. I cant comment on pascal as I dotn know anything about him. We will see if Froch has the cohones to deal with pascal and then taylor. My crystal ball says no
     
  9. lONGCOUNTED

    lONGCOUNTED I Killed MMA Full Member

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    Damn, this is a great post! Gotta love when the trolls get exposed.
     
  10. heidegger

    heidegger Guest

    I'm not sure if there's a worse one that this, but next time i'll find an American.