Calzaghe..,what makes him so good?

Yeah, I keep pointing that out repeatedly. You seem to have a problem with comprehension as you keep making statements as if you haven't seen them.

No, he isn't nearly as good as any of them (unless you mean the past prime versions). That is why I didn't put him in that list. Fighting past prime ATGs doesn't make you an ATG. I've watched every round of Joe's career. He has struggled with countless average fighters so that it is easy to conclude what would have happened if he had had the desire to meet a prime ATG. It is who you fight AND when you fight them that legitimizes an attribution of greatness - not receiving the benefit of the doubt when you have struggled with old past prime versions and a multitude of average guys.

Yes, I will continue to know that the quality exhibited by guys like Nunn and Liles demonstrates where they stand vis-a-vis Joe Calzaghe. You have a bit of an obvious hang up on their lives and lifestyles huh? Give it a rest - it is irrelevant to the judgement of their talent and capability. They fought very talented fighters in their career and did not merely face a couple of 40+ year old men at the very end of their careers.

Draw stoppages? Let me see that list.

Here I'll start it:

Mitchell (ref stoppage - bull**** call - Mitchell feels the same way about it today - as anyone should who watched it). [No rematch]

Sheika (ref stoppage on cuts - bull**** call - Sheika irate). [No rematch]

You start HERE .......

Actually I think your problem is one related to ADD or an inability to read.

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(just looking at the combination of TALENT/ATHLETICISM/SKILL/POWER/TOUGHNESS - not who had the best record, matchmaking, most careful promoter, the most predisposed local refs, abundant back pocket judges, etc.).

Second tier in no particular order:

Graciano Rocchigiani
Joe Calzaghe
Steve Collins
Sven Ottke
Robin Reid
Markus Beyer
Thulani Malinga
Mikkel Kessler
Byron Mitchell
Glen Johnson
Jeff Lacy
Lindell Holmes


Nearly all of Glen's fights at 168 could have been called narrowly the other way (in his favor) except maybe Vanderpool and Sheika could have easily been a draw. Once, again I rate him (the ROAD WARRIOR) on his abilities not on his lack of promotership or hometown influence with the judges. He was a better LHW but he was still a very decent SMW in a division that only goes back to about '84. He was decent enough to make Joe recognize that without perfect preparation and setup it just wasn't worth the risk. Joe and Frank knew better about Joe's limitations and repeatedly chose to defer meeting Glen. Only a dumbass would doubt Glen's quality and go by his record solely when they know how crooked many of the results were. Glen has certainly proved repeatedly his worth whether winning or losing in facing a level of comp that makes Joe's a complete and utter farce.

 

Activity, excellent chin, great stamina, good handspeed, and the rhythm of a metronome on acid.