nope everything thing is tooken into account. although he will be unbeaten. jones will be ranked higher having won in more weight division not to mention a HW title . but i feel joe might be ranked higher then B-hop do to the fact that b-hop greates wins are against smaller men other then tarver. it's really a toss up between the 2 depending on what geographical area your from and who had a more succesful title reign. for instance take unification title fights for the 2 b-hop had holmes,tito,and DLH(wbo title we all know b-hop was the real champ) and JOE's lacy,Kessler who was more dangerous to whom? clearly kessler was more dangerous to joe then the 3 to b-hop but at the time tito was the favourite even though having moved up to MW from 154lbs. but LACy was also the FAvourite in the calzaghe fight and was actually expected to just go in and demosish JOe kind what most peopl thoguht about tito when he fought hopkins. we all know what happend to the 2 destroyers in both fights. holmes was a solid champion. but know where near what kessler is or as dominant. and DLH is just a big WW. kessler and lacy were undefeated and younger tito was undefeated . so it really just depend on what you look at. tito being top 5 p4p but really just a great WW and Jr ww and a good mw . or KESSLER and LAcy being undefeated top 2 or 3 in the SMW division at the time and actually belonging to the weight class.
Let's recap some of your opinions and see if you need to be taken seriously or, alternatively, sent to a special school. From rick1: 'Barret is a dangerous fighter, That's why he did not throw combos, Haye has 1 punch ko power so he did what he had to do. Very impressive victory. I actually believe this guy will be better than lennox lewis, But we will see.' Re: Did Mayweather 'school' Hatton 'No he had a bad trainer then if he fought floyd now he would beat him. He has learned a lot.' Top 5 Most skillful current boxer???? Calzaghe Hopkins Kessler 'All american fighters are boring. They just don't deliver action packed fights, Its bad for the sport, Im glad europe is getting more and more champions, Because america is going down the hill.' 'Calzaghe would still defeat a prime roy. The guy doesn't loose man, He's to intelligent in the ring, To slick for any roy that shows up.' 'I see joe stopping dawson maybe 10th round tko.' Re: David Haye - where do you see him 3 years from now? 'Being undisputed heavyweight champion, Without a doubt, Hes in too good of shape for all those out of shape heavyweights.' Re: who is the most feared fighter of present??? 'Joe Calzaghe' 'Lol **** off, Your just jealous of not being welsh:good' 'No way prime jones beats calzaghe, The guy cant loose man, Hes special, The harder the fight the better he performs, Its simple' 'Calzaghe fighting dawson would be a massacre, Dawson would get destroyed man.' 'Calzaghe would beat a prime jones, Calzaghe let him hit him because calzaghe did not feel roys punches and this will give joe a mental advantage' Re: It's a shame Calzaghe v. Jones is not an 8 round fight - it would be much better! 'Calzaghe could do 15 rounds' Re: What if Joe Moved up to HW? 'no heavyweight would even be able to hit him, Calzaghe would make all heavyweights look like 50year old amateurs. Calzaghe already has a place in the HOF. He has nothing left to prove. Calzaghe can hit, He just used his speed advantage against roy to win a easy decision.' Kessler vs Dawson 'Kessler would dominate a dawson, To accurate, fast and powerful. Dawson would look like a rag doll in there. ' 'Haye will unify the heavyweight division froch will unify super middleweight when he beats pascal.' Re: Hattons hands look fast... Hatton will kill paulie. 'European fighters will always reign supreme and are getting stronger every year. ' hatton v judah? 'Hatton will be unbeatable with his new trainer, His old one lacked the knowledge to make hatton a better fighter.' 'The judges gave the fight to Mayweather but everybody knows Castillo should of won that fight. Calzaghe is a league above floyd. ' 'Calzaghe can hit. If jones gets lazy on the ropes its goodbye roy.' 'Calzaghe will always be better than mayweather' 'Calzaghe is better than floyd, Joe has better movement and can dodge punches better' 'Joe said his hands feel good, Therefor he will use fall power and when he uses this he is capable of anything' Calzaghe is hard to hit so roy wanted to be precise with as many punches as possible or he would get tired quickly. That is why roy did not throw many, Man calzaghe dominated his ass. Re: Best P4P ever? 'Joe Calzaghe' 'All the british fighters will win the yank' Fastest Boxers P4P Top 10 - Based On Speed 'Calzaghe is number 1' Joe Calzaghe the #1 P4P king (And hes British!) 'Calzaghe is number 1 p4p,......Also for you who think pacman is number 1 when he looses to delahoya you have no argument but admit calzaghe is number 1.' 'Calzaghe beat hopkins more convincingly than 2 of the judges had it, I had it 117-11' 'Calzaghe would catch jones even off the ropes in his prime. ' Haye has a very large frame, Im tellin ya, This guy has a great chin, Great stamina(easily went 12rounds with ishmael abdoul) and has amazing power, This guy is goin on to the great things. Hes gonna unify the division with ease, The guys in amazing shape...[I bet his **** tastes nice?] Top 5 boxers in our era?? 1:Calzaghe 2:Jones 3:Hopkins 4:Mayweather 5:Lewis Re: Calzaghe Vs Ruiz 'Nah calzaghe would outbox his ass easy for 12rounds' Re: ***LATEST Ring Magazine Pound-for-Pound rankings*** 'I'm not suprised no american boxer is in the top 3, Whats gonna happen when hopkins retires? Proberly none in the top 5. '
Heidegger, you are a GENIUS! What a catalogue of shame. This guy is a nondescript horrible little noob just now, but I think you just catapulted him to prominence as one of the very worst noobs on this forum. Let's hope his star continues to rise and attract more and more ridicule until the inevitable ban for someone who thinks it is funny to call people an orphan. Heidegger - I salute you :happy :happy :happy :happy
off with his head! sorry, but as great as joe is, he'll never get credit for getting dropped by both in the first round, esp roy. who the hell reads history books on boxing? the replays on tv will show joe as the greatest slapper of all time while they show rjj and hopkins in their primes absolutely amazing the watchers with displays of boxing magic, not patty cake boxing reminiscent of boy george boxing
Don't thank me, he did all the work, I just did some quoting. He has definitely risen to the p4p ranks of stupidity in a short amount of time. Very impressive.
Nope, he won't. Well I take that back... by you and some other british nut huggers he will... but does that really matter?
Winner- Heidegger by vicious Allan Green vs Jaidon style knockout over rick1 Heidegger - :bbb rick1- :dead
Agreed. That's why Marciano is above Louis. Holmes is above Ali. Archer is above Robinson. Norris is above Leonard. etc.
Exactly. For these people to behave such violently negative reaction to the suggestion that a guy who is 46-0 and beaten the 2 men i`m suggesting he rates higher than shows deep down they know the truth but cannot face it.