Calzaghe would beat every active fighter today from 160-175

Ward, Froch, Dirrell, Bute, Hopkins, Pascal, Dawson, are a few that would beat Calzaghe.

 

**** off

 

Calzaghe was too ***** to get in the ring with Froch, so Calzaghe would have been TKO coz he lacked the heart to have a tare up with Carl the Cobra Froch. There is a reason Calzaghe ducked Froch, simply because he knew Froch had too much power. And Froch hits way harder than Mitchell.

Calzaghe had difficulty with Hopkins, when Hopkins either had Calzaghe too close or had him in the clinch. Ward has displayed this beautifully/ugly in his recent fights and Calzaghe hasnt shown that he can deal with this in any of his fights. Ward UD.

Dirrell's ***** mentality of not getting into a fight, keeping the fight at distance and running away would have been problematic for Calzaghe. Also Dirrell has better reflexes, footwork and handspeed, Dirrell UD.

AA would bomb Calzaghe into a tare up, AA has the better chin, and better power. Calzaghe been on ***** street in his fights against Byron Mitchell, Hopkins and Kabery Salem, whom dont hit half as hard as AA. AA KTFO Calzaghe.

Bute would be a tougher fight, Bute body punching would slow Calzaghe down. Bute has demostrated this in the Andrade aswell as other fights that he is an accomplished body puncher. Bute has the better power, and can fight on the backfoot alot better than Calzaghe. Bute SD Calzaghe.

Calzaghe didnt want to fight Chad Dawson when that fight was possible to be made, which was another ***** move by the welsh dragon. If a 43 year old Hopkins lateral movement was troublesome for Calzaghe, Dawson has the legs to do this more effectively.

Pascal dont have the stamina, but has enough heart and durability to last the distance. I think this would be 50-50

 

This. Having said that he would probably beat most of them like the TS stated, shame.

 

Yes because he was really afraid of Carl Froch whos best achievement at the time was being british champion.

kabary salem headbutted and elbowed the **** out of calzaghe, on one of calzaghes worst nights (getting cleaned out by his wife in the divorce court at the time) he's used to cheating. he manhandled jeff lacy on the inside, and outworked eubank up close. also, he had hopkins on the backfoot covering up with his "slaps". something kelly pavlik couldn't do with his "bombs". ward had much more trouble on the sinside with bika than calzaghe did

dirrell better reflexes? no chance, calzaghes ring IQ would **** all over dirrell.

AA got outboxed for five rounds by wayne ****ing elcock before elcock got caught.... dont be ****ing stupid, calzaghe would outclass abraham badly,CARL FROCH ****ING DID.

Calzaghe took massive bombs from Kessler and DIDNT go down, he also hurt kessler badly with a 6 inch body shot...

dawson? get real

bute? woulod have been a good fight, but you think calzaghes gonna shell up and let bute unleash body punches? you seriously underestimate calzaghes infighting ability

pascal gets outclassed

 

Bottom line is Calzaghe didnt want to step in the ring with Froch. You can knock Froch for only being a European champ at the time, but why did Calzaghe fight Evans Ashira, or Peter Manfredo around the same time. Froch made more sense than these bouts. Calzaghe in my opinion was a ***** who didnt want it. So didnt Frank Warren.

Firstly Kabery Salem is a **** figher. Secondly it was a punch that had Calzaghe on ***** street not a headbutt. Thirdly AA, and Froch are more accomplished punchers than Salem.

1. Lacy aint displayed skills like Ward did. Ward is a better fighter.
2. Eubank was past his prime, close to shot, came out of retirement a year before, and was training to fight Mark prince at LHW a division about. Also moved up 2 weight classes immediatley after Calzaghe so was clearly troubled weight wise at SMW. Ward is in his prime and would be more dangerous than either Lacy or Eubank.

U may not be able to see the talent and potential of Dirrell because of Dirrells ***** mentality/ Lack of heart. But Im sure in a few years time you would at least admit that Dirrell would be a tough fight for Calzaghe.

The way Froch outboxed AA was to with:
1. Range: Froch had the jab to keep AA at range.
2. Physical Strength: When AA tried getting in the inside, Froch busted him up.

Calzaghe aint showed use of long range boxing, if he did please enlighten me. Also Calzaghe aint physical stronger than AA.

Dirrell out boxed AA with:
1. Range
2. Footspeed

Eventually footspeed diminished and AA got hold of Dirrell. But point being what Froch and Dirrell did, Calzaghe has never displayed in the game. Calzaghe was a mid range - inside slugger/slapper. That would suit AA.

AA hits harder than Kessler

Pascal wont be outclassed for the first few rounds. But would in the last few. Pascal has **** stamina and Calzaghe has one of the best work rates.
But Pascal got heart and Durability to remain there.

 

manfredo was a top ten ranked fighter & known in america. froch was neither of these.

ashira was actually 2 years earlier when carl froch wasn't even at euro level...he was a tune up fight to see if joe was over his hand problems before fighting lacy (he wasn't). froch at the time was a 15 fight novice being built up by his promoters fighting domestic level oppo & wouldn't have been let anywhere near calzaghe, even if joe had wanted the fight.

 

U will never know simple as that

 

Did some absolute ****** just say Direll had better handspeed than Joe? Wow. Joe at 40 has better handspeed than Direll at 20.

 

There was literally nobody who lived outside of Nottingham who gave Froch a chance in that fight. Calzaghe was already getting criticized for fighting unknown fighters. Instead of fighting his alphabet mandatory (Froch) he moved up to LHW to challenge Hopkins for the lineal LHW championship. Which was a total ***** move, and should be condemned.

Maybe in a few years time Dirrell will mature into a fighter rather than an athlete...or maybe he won't. Right now, Dirrell would be beaten up by Calzaghe. Calzaghe is better than Dirrell in every department (power is a possible exception, but not a significant one because neither guy has much power)...speed. workrate. conditioning. chin. ring generalship. combination punching. body punching. etc... And then we can get into the intangibles--Heart, champion's mindset, self-belief, mental toughness, and the list goes on.

Basically, Calzaghe is better than Dirrell at every single thing that boxers do. So when a person picks Dirrell to beat Calzaghe, my simple question is 'How?'

Froch and Dirrell both fought much differently than they usually do. Why? Because AA's style called for it. AA would be nothing but a punching bag for Calzaghe. (Now, if they were equally sized, there would be the slight possibility that AA hurts/stops Calzaghe. A puncher's chance. At 168, Abraham doesn't really have that.) At this point in time, seeing what we've sen, to suggest AA would beat Calzaghe is next-level crazy talk.

Tell that to Froch :rofl We're talking about 168 here, remember?

What about Pascal suggests that he wouldn't be outclassed in the early going? The man isn't exactly a technical genius or a monster puncher...Calzaghe builds up an early lead, forces the pace from the start. I'm sure Pascal would give it everything he has, but by round 7 he would be ****ing exhausted. Calzaghe cuts the ring better than Hopkins and throws far more punches, applying CONSTANT pressure. Calzaghe is a nightmare for Pascal--a much better boxer with a good chin and a high workrate. Pascal would be stopped, there's no question.

 

:deal

 

You sure it didn't have something to do with Froch never having fought anybody? It might even have been the fact that Hopkins was available for the legitimate 175lb title and a **** ton of money, but hey, who knows.

Well, I almost agree. Calzaghe HAS shown this ability. He dominated Kessler by making it a close-range affair. He annihilated Lacy without ever stepping out of arms reach. He beat Bika by a wide margin, also largely on the inside. He beat Hopkins, the master of ugly infighting.

Ward is not as good at it as Hopkins, and he doesn't hit anywhere near as hard. I think Ward's still got a lot of potential to uncover. Ward right now would lose to Calzaghe, but it would be one of the tougher fights out of all the ones mentioned.

It's one thing to run away and keep a fight at a distance when you're fighting Carl Froch and AA, neither of which are pressure fighters or quick on their feet. If Dirrell tried to run from Calzaghe, it'd be an easy night's work because he just wouldn't be able to stay away.

Dirrell doesn't have better footwork than Calzaghe, or anybody really. Not sure why you think that's the case? Handspeed? Nah. And really, it doesn't matter how fast your hands are if you don't throw punches. Reflexes?

AA is a middleweight. In case you haven't already been tipped off by the fact that he's gotten murdered by the supermiddleweights he's faced. A one-dimensional knockout puncher who moves up in weight becomes a no-dimensional fighter.

Calzaghe would demolish Bute at this point, barring a bodypunch KO, which can always happen when Bute is in the ring. There is no way Bute would be able to land consistently enough to the body to slow Calzaghe down the stretch though. Also, Calzaghe is a fellow southpaw, so the things that Bute is used to doing won't work (left uppercut to the body in particular.)

I thought Dawson would have been tough for Calzaghe until I saw him get schooled by Pascal. But hey, he's a tall, quick southpaw, so maybe they would match up well. Again, this goes back to the issue with Dirrell: Calzaghe is better at everything, ESPECIALLY executing a gameplan. Sure, Dawson is fast on his feet and could run away from Calzaghe for a while, but that isn't going to help him win the fight, it's only going to help him survive it.

 

I think Joe is 50/50 against this guys: Ward,Direll,Bute and Dawson..

 

If we are talking a prime calzaghe i'd take him over everyone with ward being the only one that i could see with a good chance. If he came back now though i think ward, bute and probably dawson would beat him

 

Hopkins allready beat him