Calzaghe would definitely have stopped Hopkins with a competent referee

can anyone explain how calzaghe scored almost twice as many punches as hopkins if he lost the fight?... No?.... well **** off then :deal

 

Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.


All these facts and they wish to pretend they are not real

 

I like Hopkins, but let's be real, he lost that fight and even here in the States....it's a shame Calzaghe doesn't get the credit he deserves for it. Calzaghe clearly demonstrated he was the better man.... ohhh, and retired undefeated... nice one. I know, I know it hurts. (BTW, I was rooting 4 Hopkins, but calzaghe gained my respect, that's all).

 

I like Calzaghe, but he would never stop Bernard.

 

This thread needs to be terminated. :rasta

 

What a joke thread, Hopkins clearly won that fight and was robbed.

 

Well answer the facts below then

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

Yes I think there is a good chance Hopkins would have been stopped if there had of been a ref that didnt give Hopkins time out and let him hold illegally at a constant level.

What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

:deal



The reason for this post again, is that nobody can debate against the solid facts and want to rewrite what happend, but the facts are facts

 

Bailey, on your "big post" you say 'almost everyone' does that mean you accept some people genuinely can score the fight in favour of hopkins?

Some sadistic part of me does want to rescore it but my memories of the fight put me off doing so, however considering the volume of people who do believe hopkins won I do believe there must be a valid argument out there.

@assasin why do you keep bringing up hopkin's increased activity before tito? I genuinely don't understand the relevance.

 

you should know by now that bernard is a dirty fighter and he is the king of holding and headbutting, I can't believe the ref's fall for his crap.

 

I just think there is an unfair bias against Calzaghe on these forums and I am not a fan of either of these 2 guys.

 

Well I think judging by the thread title the opposite is being displayed. Unless you believe under a different ref joe would definitely stop hopkins.