Calzaghe would definitely have stopped Hopkins with a competent referee

They don't like it because his right.

Even had it not been a SD.
Hopkins fans would still say sir Joe lost.
Because Hopkin can't be beaten by a White boy can he now? He's G.

 

Think we should have this post again

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

Yes I think there is a good chance Hopkins would have been stopped if there had of been a ref that didnt give Hopkins time out and let him hold illegally at a constant level.

What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

:deal

 

if you beileve Hopkins was bullshitting on the break than you can look at that is quitting.

 

The ramblings of a biased ***** sniffing moron.

Hopkins won both fights against Taylor and against the Welsh semi pro club fighter Calzaghe.

 

According to ESB, that makes Byrd the only one who got it right....:!:

 

i believe joe won but it was a close, difficult to score fight. bhop was definitely exploiting the rules to get a breather and he was struggling the last couple of rounds, but i dont believe he would have been stopped by calzaghe. i think bhop had the right idea in cutting off joes workrate and smothering him, but calz was also a very smart fighter, was more active and quicker. he used his physical ability to just outwork hop in the end, not pretty but it did the job. if it was a peak bhop in there with better stamina, it would have been still a close, awkward fight but bhop would have probably won. anyway cortez was biased, he let bhop get away with what he stopped hatton and maidana from doing. maybe he dont like white guys lol. and as for those saying the fight was a robbery, it was in america with 3 american judges, hardly homecooking

 

To just clarify my earlier post, I don't think Hatton would have beaten Mayweather but Cortez would have played a part if the fight had been closer. Be honest though Hopkins KD in that fight did come from him putting his weight into a shoulder barge as the to fighters were coming together into a clinch. He did catch Calzaghe with a right hand just before (very early in the fight) but it was the push which sent him down. You can't just dismiss the rules of boxing either, you get 1 minute inbetween rounds and that's all. I don't think Calzaghe would have stopped Hopkins but imagine if Taylor had done this against Froch. The rules are their for a reason and point deductions should be made for breaking them by a ref.
Baily - Could you post the Jay Larkin quote from Calzaghe's auto-biography where he basicaly accuses Hopkins of ducking Calzaghe in 2002 and being a cherry picker in general.

Anyone being honest will admit that Hopkins never had a run of opponents at middle as he has at light heavy.

 

:rofl silly boy. when hopkins dropped calzaghe, it was due to the timing of the punch, not the power. calzaghe was past his best in that fight but he still had a solid chin. wasn't as good as it was in his prime, but still solid. when did he have him holding on for dear life after the knock down? :huh i remember hopkins going back on the back foot after the knock down. calzaghe got straight up and walked hopkins down - that's what happened. you must of watched a different fight.

and if joe is a overrated bum... what does that make hopkins? because he ran, cheated, and still lost to an overrated bum! :rofl try again boy.

 

:rofl that was a close fight you know - could of gone either way. :rofl

 

that was euginia williams. think that's how you say her first name. it's something like that anyway.

 

great post. :good

 

pretty much.

 

yeah, that was funny when hopkins didn't know which corner to go to. calzaghe brought so much heat, hopkins couldn't cope. :yep

 

****ing hell, who let you in? go and take your meds - then **** off.

 

what do you mean - " if it was a peak Bhop in there, he would of probably won"? calzaghe was past his prime as well you know. if they were both in their prime, calzaghe would still win. but in a more brutal fashion.