Calzaghe would definitely have stopped Hopkins with a competent referee

What can i say I suck at math. Rewatch the fight. Who was gasping for air, faking lowblows and just looked like a pathetic schoolgirl begging the ref for a break in the action. Late in the fight Hopkins turned Joe away from the ref and hit him in the testicles. Joe knew, right there if he begged for a rest he would lose. This fight, afterall was in the states with a U.S. ref and U.S. judges. He sucked it up and just kept attacking and Hopkins retreated once again. He won the fight right there. Joe knew to keep the pressure on no matter what. It`s was a hell of a battle and I encourage everybogy to download that fight. Joe did not let Bernard bully him. That is why he won.

 

Cortez, as he always is, was ridiculous in that fight and allowed hopkins to do whatever he wanted, inculding faking low blows.

 

Anyone who is claiming robbery should never be allowed ot watch a fight again. Robbery don't happen when a fight is very close....and when it is given to the right guy.

 

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I am not sure if SlapZaghe had the power to stop anyone...the hardest shots he lands are the ones on his gf's ass during foreplay.

 

This was a cross roads fight for Hopkins in a sense. He was trying to save to much energy and conserve. He knew he left to much in the tank letting Calzhage off the hook after the knockdown.

The good thing about that was he became more aggressive since then. That fight brought him to his spectacular wins over Pavlik and Pascal and the necessary victory over RJJ putting him ahead on total rounds over there combined 2 fights.

I do not think either fighter did anything to win that fight. If Hopkins fought him knowing he had what he truly had left he would have finished him off.

Hopkins best stops Calzhage at his best.

 

Calzaghe completely outclassed Hopkins, made Hopkins look like a fool. Hopkins is a very dirty fighter, but it did him not good...........

 

Think we should have this post again

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd who scored for Hopkins it appears has a history for bad scorecards. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

Yes I think there is a good chance Hopkins would have been stopped if there had of been a ref that didnt give Hopkins time out and let him hold illegally at a constant level.

What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

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The reason for this post again, is that nobody can debate against the solid facts and want to rewrite what happend, but the facts are facts

 

There is a difference between activity level and trading.

Joe c could not hit hard enough to stop hopkins.

 

Correct the ref allowed Hopkins to continually hold which was ironic cause about 12 weeks previous he was all over Hatton if he tried to hold Mayweather. What was the difference between Hatton and Hopkins? Oh that`s right I remember now Hatton wasn`t American and both bout were in America and Old Cortez which side his bread is buttered on.

 

The lightheavyweight version of Joe "Hands of Kettle Chips" Calzaghe didn't have enough power to KO a senile 80 year old Glass-Jawed war veteran, never mind an titanium-chinned modern God like Bernard Hopkins.

 

Its not always about how hard someone can punch. For example Haye got hit harder by V Klitschko than he did C Thompson, but against C Thompson, Haye gassed, part of that was due to Thompsons pressure even when Haye was winning.
Hopkins was struggling to keep Calzaghe off and looking to hold repeatedly. If there was a ref who didnt let Hopkins hold so much, Hopkins may have ended up taking alot of unanswered shots where he is not out cold but taking punches without reply, prompting a stoppage.
Remember Hopkins was allowed to hold repeatedly and have time out unnecessarily, without that I think it could have been possible Hopkins could have been stopped.

Still all this is irrelevant as Calzaghe still won by landing more on Hopkins in every round, landing more on Hopkins than anyone ever, and scored the highest card against Hopkins ever, so a good victory even without the stoppage.

 

Calzaghe beating hokpins was the last time a forgien fighter got the decison in a big fight in the states?

Since then we have had mike jones, broner, williams, judah, alexander and many more getting home town decisons live on TV.

 

You've posted this three times, and those who think hopkins won are just ignoring it.
I can't think of an example of a fight where someone has landed less in EVERY round and been given the decision.
Even punch stats for power punches calzaghe landed more!

 

Agreed. The work rate was too much.