You aren't seriously implying that Roy Jones Jr. isn't shot, are you? He's been shot for a long time.
Everyone was claiming RJJ was shot before the fight, if you don't think he is, you don't know much about his progression as a fighter or the sport. But its pretty funny that all the haters have come around as though this fight was an epiphany, it was clear he was a very good fighter after the Kessler fight and this fight proved the least out of his most recent fights.
There was a whole poetry thread in the lounge around Oct, 2007. Decebal's brainchild, I think. Some of them were very interesting, and some quite good. We should do it more often.
joe beats hoppy any year. hoppy has gotten much better since moving up. I also favor him over roy as he offers too much complexity for roy, compared with the tomatoes roy fought at his prime.