Calzaghe

This gobshite's crying it in already it seems. The likes of Glen Johnson was signed only because 'he'd just been beaten, would have been tough fight two years previously blah blah', when the fight's called off "calzaghe avoids the big names, he's a coward".

 

There we have it folks.

This mans believes the only way for Calzaghe to prove he wasn't an erm 'Coward' was to relentlessly pursuit Roy Jones Junior.

A man who thought he was bigger than boxing at times. (See getting away with steriod abuse and playing basketball game in one day).

A man known for outrageous demands in regards to fights.

A man known for never fighting the Lineal champion at the weight(DM) and failing to come and go to make the fight happen.

Yes that Roy Jones Junior. In order to get his attention Calzaghe would have to move up a weight, beat a whole load of shitty contender types work his way into one of he mandatory positions.

Or else beat his long term rival(Hopkins) thus gaining a bit of notoriety and status. Even then the fights not a given. JC tried to make that fight.

DM is the one I hold JC to task over. As guys like Jirov, Hopkins, Sanders and Lewis and Douglas found, RJJ often said one thing and did another during his days as P4P king. The fight would have been difficult to make in any circumstances.

 

I posted at boxing*talk when Calzaghe-Lacy was in the pipeline, I was a Calzaghe fan, and after the Lacy-Reid fight I said "Calzaghe will not lose a round against Lacy". And I've linked to it before. It was always obvious to me what Lacy was, a one punch guy. And one punch guys don't beat good boxers.
I do not hate Calzaghe, I loved watching him fight for about 10 years, believing he wanted big fights. But he pissed every chance he had up the wall to meet great fighters when they were great fighters.
And now, he cannot fight ANY great fighters because they're gone. Roy Jones is past his prime to say the very least, Hopkins is 43 and an old man. Even Ottke, who wasn't a great fighter, but he was Joe's #1 challenger for 10 years - is retired.

I am pissed off at Calzaghe for never getting a true great fight when they were all around him, he's proven nothing. And that's what annoys me. I'm an ex-Calzaghe fan who can never see him in the ring with an ATG and that's why I'm calling him what I am now.

Don't throw anything about me always wanting to see him lose, not even close, I don't even want him to lose on saturday. I just wanted to see him win when the winning wouldv'e REALLY meant something.

 

Mate, ive had debates in the general forum sometimes and my posts are starting to disintegrate to his level somewhat but boy this guy takes the biscuit as the biggest idiotic poster ive ever came across.

He bleats out the same tired, superficial, cliche lines that all Calzaghe haters come away with.

He has tried to pose a million arguments to prove that JC is a coward all weak.

Have a look through this thread mate from about page 7 onwards its a right laugh.

 

When did you stop being a fan of Calzaghe? Serious question.

Post Lacy?

 

Over both Hatton and Calzaghe's really dull patch, 2001-2004 they annoyed me with with not going anywhere - there wasn't even light at the end of tunnel.
When Hatton finally got a shot at Tsyzu and Calzaghe got Lacy (because America hyped Lacy up, I was happy they'd finally see Calzaghe be as good as he is) I was more hopeful of the future.

The key thing was Hatton, he left Warren and went after Mayweather like I never saw Calzaghe go after ANYBODY.
And It was the last couple of years I realised that we could have seen Calzaghe-Jones et al in 2002, instead of Calzaghe-Brewer. It pissed me off to think that. And I blame Calzaghe, for staying with Warren.

Hatton was the proof, to me, of what Calzaghe could've done.

 

You honestly think we could have seen Calzaghe-Jones in 2002? How exactly. The only way I see is through fights with Hopkins or DM to really get Jones attention. He of course attempted to make one of those fights. It is not his fault that Hopkins pulled out. The timescale just isn't there when you consider what Jones was up to around this time.

Even with victory in those bouts, it seems unlikely that Jones would have been game anyway given his venture to HW was in the making for early 2003 and we all know he was never the same man after that.

You say you got hope when Calzaghe fought Lacy. OK then. What could Calzaghe have done after beating Lacy? Has his career really been plotted so bad since then?

He tried to fight Taylor. Taylor chose to fight Pavlik instead, fair enough.

Tarver was owned by Hopkins obviously so that became a non-starter.

Kessler was there. Calzaghe beat him. Hes now fighting Hopkins and proposes to meet Pavlik after that.

What exactly is it that he could have done post Lacy? Unlike Hatton the p4p 1 does not operate in or around his division.

 

How did Hatton get Mayweather? He did everything Calzaghe didn't do to get Jones.

 

post Lacy was too late, I'm pissed off at Calzaghe for not trying to fight Roy up to 2004, when he was p4p #1 and around Calzaghe's division for 10 years.

 

Thats a whole other topic of discussion. Hatton is arguably one of the worst for picking his fights.

 

Hatton went for the biggest fight in boxing. atsch

 

But he took the fight, he proved he was #1 at 140 so he took a challenge, the p4p #1 a division up.

Something Calzaghe never even tried to do in 10 years of being a world champion. Hatton done it 2 years after winning a world title.

But this is exactly what I'm saying, just try to get the biggest fight you can - don't waste the opportunity.

Even Alex Arthur has balls for fighting Guzman in his prime, Calzaghe doesn't.

 

"Joe did try to get some big fights" do he? How?

He didn't leave his weight class, he didn't fight in America, so how did he try to get these big fights?

Like you, I used to try and convince myself he wanted big fights, but looking back - he didn't - because he did nothing to get them. :-(

 

Why did Calzaghe have no name? because he didn't fight in America or fight at light heavyweight at all, Jones was p4p #1, why would he fight a title holder a weight below? Calzaghe had to force a fight, and did NOTHING. :roll:

Ottke was a p*ssy, just like Joe. I've never said any different.

Who the f*ck is Joe Calzaghe. WBO 168 champ? It's Joe's fault they didn't give a f*ck about him.

The other guys were superstars (Jones and Hopkins) and p4p #1 and #2 at the time. They don't need to chase Joe "nobody" Calzaghe. It's obvious if you're not Joe's fanboy. atsch

 

Why do kids like you hang around in places like this?