Calzaghes best win?

By fighting who, then? Calzaghes real rival was Sven Ottke, and that fella did not take dangerous fights. Pretty much like a Bute of today.

Fighting Hopkins earlier? Great idea. Frank ****** says they tried to get it on, but Hopkins bailed out. Hopkins say whatever. Both lies as snake oil salesmen. So who should you believe?

Left is the question why Calzaghe did not move up in weight earlier and fought Roy Jones. His more dedicated fans claims that Roy Jones was already about to jump weights (never checked it myself) and did not really persue the fight himself.

Leaves the Calzaghe hater with what?

 

Feel free to school me on the subject.

Hopkins lost twice against Taylor but come back strong, except for the unavoidable loss against Calzaghe.

Look who Wlad lost to. :-( Came back strong.

Lewis was KO'd by a tomatocan. Came back strong.

As I already said, Eubank was not peak when he fought Calzaghe. But was he old and shot enough for the victory to be written off?

 

Fairly resonable post, apart from the fact that Eubank was 31. But he had started to slip up, so some fans like to believe he was shot.

 

Here comes some quotes. Enjoy.

Bernard Hopkins:

“Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power.”

Glen Johnson:

“Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy’s will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones’ hard-hitting punches make the difference.”

Vernon Forrest - WBC welterweight champion:

“Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision.”

Paulie Malignaggi- Former IBF junior welterweight champion:

"It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, but maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision."

Winky Wright:

“I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe’s and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think its Calzaghe late in the fight.”

Dan Rafael- ESPN.com

“Although Calzaghe is the favorite, I think Jones' style and speed -- he's still fast -- are going to give him problems. I think it will be a tough, close fight but I'm going with the upset special. I like Jones to pull it out on a close decision.”

Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal

”Jones over Calzaghe. This is a fascinating fight. Jones is still quick and with his awkward style and dangerous punching power is able to freeze very active opponents like Calzaghe. I'm picking Jones by a decision.”

Tim Smith- New York Daily News

“Roy Jones has good power and I think that will offset the volume of punches that Calzaghe throws. Calzaghe has a good chin so I don't see him getting knocked out. I like Jones in a decision.”

Franklin McNeil- Newark Star Ledger
“On paper, Calzaghe should not have much difficulty getting by Jones. Calzaghe is a southpaw, and Jones has had his most difficult outings against non-orthodox fighters. And though each man has quite a few miles on his tires, Jones has logged a bit more. The physical edge goes to Calzaghe, but stylistically Jones’ constant movement could prove to be beneficial. If Jones can control the pace, make Calzaghe miss, score with counter shots and his stamina holds up, he will win. Jones wins by decision.”

Bobby Cassidy- Newsday
“I like Roy Jones in the 11th round TKO. Calzaghe does not have the power to keep Jones honest. I think by the second half of the fight Jones will be picking him a part. Calzaghe looked so good against Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the firepower to slow him down. But Jones has both speed and power. In other fights, Calzaghe has been able to adjust to one of those assets; he won't be able to adjust to both, especially from a fighter like Jones.”

 

Fella, you preach for someone who already believes. I know the Roy Jones fight was a cherry pick. But why did so many people believe Jones would nick it?

 

I think I have to say thats fair enough

 

Good, but not convincing. It hardly seems like Joe chased a fight against Jones when he was prime. We dont know for sure about Hopkins. But it seems to go both ways. Jones or Hopkins did not call Calzaghe out, and did little else to make the fight happened.

You might think that it was the duty of Joe to get his arse over to America. But simply stating that Joe was a Eurobum that defeated other Eurobums wont do in a real debate. Joe held a title, was a huge draw in UK which is a very profitable market, and slapped the **** out of every American fighter that he got in on with. Lacy was declared hype after Joe was done with him, same with Manfredo. But they where profile names at the time.

I know there are a couple of stoppages that looks real silly. But in those cases Joe had pretty much shut those fighters down beforehand. I think it is pretty irrelevant considering the topic.

 

Was the supposed venue Wales? Thats news for me :blood

Calzaghe team never offered Hopkins 6 millions. Your informations about Calzaghes earning seems a bit off as well.