Calzaghe's legacy if Kessler Loses tonight

You're a preferred poster of mine, Rumsfeld, but I'll wholeheartedly disagree with that. I see you have already conceeded most people would tend to disagree, so I don't want to seem annoying.

 

Calzaghe's lack of genuine scoring is the problem for most people, you have to figure. Hopkins has always had tremendous defense, but he's no-where-near as unhittable as Calzaghe made him look. I think right there alot of people decided Calzaghe was never as good as they thought he might have been. That was a very disappointing performance by both fighters, but more so Calzaghe. Hopkins made a fool of himself with his antics and posturing, but he still came off as a world class operator. Calzaghe, not so much.. Calzaghe did however prove once again that he had a will to win second to no other, even if he didn't have the tools. We'll always appreciate Calzaghe for his fighting intensity. Few fighters could ever compare in that department.

 

For those who love Calzaghe so much that they say he "beat down Kessler" is BS! Kessler slept good that night while Calzaghe was up all night taking pain medication. Calz took wayy more punishment in the fight but he outworked Kessler. He did hurt kess to the body in rnd 8 and landed a good combination later on but that was about it! All I'm trying to say is Kess took no beating from calz and he shouldn't have anything to lower his confidance from that fight being that Kess won the last round of that fight. Calz resume will be deminished after ward spanks Kess cause Calz did no spanking of the such to kess but Roy Jones is another story!

 

san Rafael is Right On AGAIN! I still believe those shot Calz threw at Hops were low that why calz hump Hop right after the first one landed which seemed kind of Odd unless he Knew hops was going to be in that position if indeed hit him low *WHICH HE DID*. I Didn't think Calz landed anything except for three punches which took place after round 9

 

yeah, THANK YOU

4 belts, he had 1- 25%
WBO being the **** belt and not even recognized for 20 years
he fought the best the WBO put in front of him....
i cant believe how some people seem to forget that "the best" had the other belts....and he never fought them in the 90s

 

That is a solid take.

The common response in Vegas was basically questions about BHOP's age, suggestions he should retire, and wonder that he was still boxing at all. No one even noticed Joe as being a champion or a meaningful opponent. Joe's weak performance made no impression nor gained him any (US) fans. Hop looked soft in his conditioning, and old and tired in his performance, while Joe appeared slightly fresher but quite amateurish and unskilled.

 

It makes me laugh how people have agendas here.

I'd like it, just in my own perfect world, if everyone could put things into perspective like Rumsfeld.

Calzaghe fought a very good version of Kessler a couple of years ago and beat him going away in a competetive, entertaining fight. I don't see how this can ever be diminished given that Kessler hardly lost a round before facing Joe.

Calzaghe has some superb wins on his record that are all too easily dismissed.

The fact that the OP suggests that Calzaghe's stock will fall if Kessler loses tonight is completely ridiculous. What if Ward goes on to be a 5 weight world champion and top 3 p4p fighter of all time? If that happens and Ward just nicks the fight tonight on points, does Calzaghe go with and above Ward?

No, of course not.

Watch the fights for what they were. Calzaghe vs Lacy/Kessler/Hopkins especially are significant examples of how good he was. Enjoy that and forget spurious all time great rankings that mean ****.

 

the reason why the thread was started and why kessler's legacy affects joe's so much is that joe never fought a proven world class fighter in his prime.
for kessler to take this tournament, it would lend weight to joe's legacy.

 

if Kessler loses to Ward and then ward ends up winning the tournament, and maybe to have a legendary career of his own, it might not be that bad for Calzaghe. Calzaghe's legacy does not hinge on just one fight.

 

it pretty much hinges on one fighter now, but it's not as if it's 'fate' that has brought calzaghe's legacy to this point, is it?

 

Actually it is quite true. Would you feel better if I spelled it out more explicitly?

"Joe's weak performance made no impression nor gained him any

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(US) fans."

Because that IS the truth. To this day you can't find a material number of US sport fans that can identify Calz or his profession. In a multiple choice quiz bet on famous "brand of pizza" coming up 9 to 1 over professional boxer.