Calzaghe's legacy is already fading........

Davies to be honest i can see why people are hating this thread people sick of reading and writing the same stuff over and over.

but i have to respect the fact you stressed your point while being fair.

i agree with you i think Calzaghe only got confidence in himself after the lacy fight and wasted about eight or nine years fighting less than stellar opponents.I think that even to say he is the best super middleweight ever is debatable as the level of opposition he has was truly terrible(not all his own fault,high risk low reward, warren etc)

but i ain't gonna listen to some idiot call him a bum or a fraud. Man had ridiculous stamina(legendary!) would give anyone up to a certain level a fight. problem is when we argue how calzaghe would measure up to a prime p4p player. we don't know because he never fought anyone that good in their prime.

 

:good I couldn't agree more!!

 

Uhmm...no, it's not, because at the end of the day, Hopkins has 5, maybe even ten victories that define his career. Calzaghe has 3, at most. So, when one of those guy's is embarassed, it does reflect negatively on Joe. That is an undeniable fact. :yep

 

where's culchulaine?

 

Please, can we dispense with these "not the same" bull**** arguments with regard to Calzaghe? Really, it stands to reason that any fighter is not the same after a difficult loss. But unless he is seriously injured, the idea that he has been suddenly and irrevocably transformed into a mediocre fighter as the result of one lose is ridiculous. I mean, really, use your head. :good

 

Check your closet!:smoke

 

why?

have you been wiping semen on the mirror again?

 

Longevity, skills, the BHop win, the MANNER of the Lacy victory andwinning all the marbles in a weight division means that he was a very, very good champion. He's not in the league of, for example, a PBF, Pacman, a RJJ, or even a Lewis, but he had a career of which to be extremely proud. He's no fraud and not an all-time great, but he doesn't deserve to be slagged off.

And although I'm British, I'm not a Calzaghe fan. I think Lewis, Naz, Honeyghan and Haye all rank higher of our six true division champions of the past quarter century (Hatton being the other). But he was a very good champ.

 

That's the problem though, how do we know that? If he beat Dawson and then Dawson lost his next fight, you would have exactly the same situation again. At the end of the day, everyone has to retire sometime and doing at the age of 37 and one fight after moving up in weight to beat the recognised number one in the division above and consensus top five P4P in the world is not a bad way to go out at all.

 

Calzazghe did the right thing by retiring 46-0.

The ONLY legacy that is getting flushed down the toilet is Glass Jaw Roy Jones. Calzaghe schooled Jones. Jones is the one getting embarrassingly KOed all the time. Not Calzaghe.

 

I see your point... But just as a side-note, FYI...

* A decorated amature and former Olympian, a pro since 2001, with 31 fights in Australia, Europe, Canada and the U.S... Current IBO CW champion, former WBA LHW champion and WBC SMW champion + numerous regional and international titles.

Danny Green is hardly a NOVICE! :deal

 

You have a mirror in your closet? That's ****ed up!atsch