Calzaghe's Old School Training

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by youngmonzon, Nov 4, 2007.


  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe also uses some training devices that hadn'tt even been invented in the 40/50s
     
  2. baguettesurgeon

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    Shannon Briggs :lol:
     
  3. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The larger a muscle is the more oxygen it requires to function at optimum efficiency. Thus Shane Mosley gassed more quickly at 154 pounds throwing 15 punches a round than he did at 147 throwing 60 (and yes, his opponents had something to do with that too). Weight training in addition to strength gains is nominally designed for increases in muscular volume, which necessarily incur a higher oxygen requirement. An anaerobic sprinter who can maintain a pace for three minutes physiologically has a slightly lower oxygen requirement for muscular work than someone who cannot maintain a sprint that long.

    By increasing the volume to surface ratio of muscles, weight lifting can be detrimental to a sport that requires huge oxygen reserves over a period of time, like boxing. I don't imagine a marathon runner would be well served by intentionally meddling with the surface to volume ratio of their muscles, and perhaps the concommitant increases in strength for a boxer would be offset by the higher oxygen requirements, making the gains inutile and worthless as in the case of the obviously powerful Juan Urango who is plodding and slow even though he is still only 140 pounds.
     
  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who said anything about muscle hypertrophy? Increased strength doesn't have to mean increased size.
     
  5. RDJ

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    At some point it will either mean no more strength gains or hypertrophy.
     
  6. MrSmall

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    Hypertrophy is one thing, complete strength training is another.
     
  7. youngmonzon

    youngmonzon Active Member Full Member

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    You must be joking!

    Shannon Briggs can only dominate tomato cans. He became much worse after becoming muscle bound.

    Briggs epitomizes the slow, no stamina, muscle bound weight lifting boxer.
     
  8. RDJ

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    :patsch

    Briggs lifted weights to become big and you still say his lifting wasn't the problem.
     
  9. RDJ

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    Ok you are right. It had nothing to do with his lifting :blood
     
  10. RDJ

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    The problem was that his training consisted of lifting. Saying "lifting wasn't the problem" is therefore a bit of a funny statement.
     
  11. RDJ

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    Ok we're going in circles here. I'll just move on now.

    Skill takes the number one spot for me. James Toney beat quite a few conditioned fighters being a skilled fat ****.
     
  12. brown_bomber

    brown_bomber BROWN BOMBER Full Member

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    there have been times where skilled boxers have lost to less inferior boxers because they ran out of gas or that the inferior boxers were fitter.
     
  13. RDJ

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    :huh
     
  14. boxexpert

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    it doesnt really matter which method you choose: old school or modern.

    combine the best of both worlds and use whats best for you.

    nothing beats decent bagwork,pads and sparring.

    david haye is very much into weightlifting. done the proper way, it will improve your punching power tremendous.

    its not about what you do,its HOW you do it
     
  15. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It also depends on your body type,and how your body reacts to weights or different old school methods...With some taller fighters they MAY be able to use some weights intelligently and sparingly if they have a certain need to develop certain muscles,or correct strength defects/imbalances,or even to move up divisions (david haye,mike spinks,both 6ft3.)....The shorter fighter however may become bulky and overdeveloped with even moderate use of weights and so will lose mobility,stamina and speed...
    I think it all depends on how an individuals particular body reacts to the particular training and sparring and punching drills are still the tops when it comes to boxing training,especially at the elite level. Youngsters may indugle in some calisthenics or weights to build/develop their bodies...
    Even pilates and core strength routines could help to build up moderately the muscles that help to stabilise the body which CAN help in punching power and efficiency of movement....
    Finally,folks have got to realise that genetics and BOXING specific training plays a big part in being a puncher or having speed/strength,a guy like jones/ali can lift NO weights and be super fast,guys like hearns/trinidad can punch like mules with NO weights,guys like roldan/mclelland can be physically very strong with NO weights,and guys like calzaghe/duran can have endless stamina with NO weights......
    ps; jack mosely,trainer and father of shane was quoted in boxing news the week before the cotto fight as saying that now his son has stopped using weights his speed has returned to near the level it was at previously......