Calzaghe's Old School Training

Like I've already said a few times in this thread; a boxer doesn't have to use weights, but the benefits are their if he wants to.

 

Yes,and results speak for themselves:

I prefer the benefits of sparring and punching drills which are proven to help develop the correct muscles for punching speed punching stamina and punching power by virtue of their being movement specific and improving the neuro muscular efficiency of the body in throwing good punches,and this is the perfect result for a BOXER......
Number of great boxers who used weights regularly: very small,holyfield and a few others....
Number of great boxers who didnt use weights: thousands......
Who wins? No WEIGHTS.......:hi: :good :yep :thumbsup :hat :rasta :bbb

 

I really couldn't be bothered with this pointless argument anymore. I know weight lifting can help improve speed, strength and conditioning, you don't want to believe it? That's fine :thumbsup

 

Who is the high Priest of the Weightlifting religion? It must be a religion because there sure as **** ain't any proof that a boxer ever benefited from it.

 

I'm personally against weights, but I don't see the harm if you break it down to one day a week like this (just an idea):

Warmup: Stretches, Shadowboxing, & Jump-Rope (Monday-Saturday)
Boxing: Bagwork, Drills, Tactics, Sparring (Monday-Saturday)
Conditioning: Morning Jogs (M,W,F,Saturday), Morning Sprints (T,T)
Strength Training: Calistentics (M-F), Plyometrics or Weights (Saturday)
REST: maybe a relaxing walk, swim, or bike ride IF NEEDED (SUNDAY)

If you can't make it to the gym (sometimes I can't), then develop your own home routine for the boxing portion (mostly consisting of heavybag work).

I think if you were to follow a 3-5 Day weight-training program, it would hinder your boxing abilities tremendously. One of my buddies lost a lot of speed after he upped his weight from 190 to 200 (his bench press went up a lot though). I only weigh 155, but he's been a regular sparring partner for me for a long time and I can tell how much slower he moves these days. He said he feels stronger, but much stiffer due to the weights, even though he was still doing his boxing training 4-5 days a week. I mean, you don't see too many muscleheads around your neighborhood that would make it in boxing do you? They are probably much better at lifting weights up in the air 3X8/5x5 times than me and you are though. Just my 2 cents.

 

Woah, woah.
You shouldn't say that about 5x5 guys. 5x5 is generally for strength over size. 6-12 reps is for that size, under is pure strength.

 

I think you should take those boxing classes and see how fast, strong and conditioned weights got you compared to the other people in that gym. I have a feeling you will be suprised, in a not so pleasant way.

 

push ups and cin ups are resistance training, old school fighters did them, weights will make you faster, if you train the peoper way with weights you will not add any muscle, get stronger,faster and more powerfull.
most people associate weights with big muscle men, shane mosley did not look like a big muscle man for the cotto fight, but when he took steroids he added muscle. mma is very open minded and most of them use weights, but boxing is still plagued by uninformed people who lack the education to properly add theory to their practical knowledge, obviously nobody wants to change their mind here, so we will achieve nothing, but i beleive some modern training methods, nutrition especially, can really help a fighter if added to his normal boxing routine.

 

For some reason I think if I got my head smashed in while sparring it'd be because I've never boxed in my life, not because I lift weights.

 

I wasn't talking about sparring.

 

Okay, give me an example of a typical boxing lesson.

 

Throwing punches, stuff like that :bbb

 

virus, please explain how in the world weight training improves conditioning.

The only real purpose of weights is explosive power. However, you are born with a natural aptitude for this area (as you are with speed, intelligence, etc.), so in the scheme of things, weights will not have that much of an impact. It's just that the supporters take people like hatton, tszyu and haye and say 'oh look, weights helped their power', when in reality, they would have been explosive punchers without them due to their natural ability. I will state that I am not one to decry weights, but I won't recommend or use them. I wish they had had a benefit for me, but all they really did was increase my lifting strength while slowing the firing time of my punches. Of course I'm expecting some people to say 'oh, you just had bad technique', so they can still believe weights are great, but I can assure you I am well-versed in weight-lifting, because I was seriously involved in it before boxing.

Point: weights are far from essential and only generally beneficial, more so to people with specific body types. The important things for boxing are skill training, condition, and, oh yeah, heart.

If weights work for you, do them; but don't try to convince everyone else using psedo-scientific jargon and whatnot.

 

it is true we are born with different skills, but there are things to enhance these skills further

 

Well said! :good

The only iron a man should pump is on the crease of his pants.