Calzaghe's Old School Training

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by youngmonzon, Nov 4, 2007.



  1. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,919
    0
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Dec 24, 2007
    Calzaghe is an exceptional talent. If you want to take into account his training regime then you need to consider the whole stable he belongs to;

    Rees
    Macca
    Lockett

    From there I think you can come up with a logical conclusion
     
  2. viktorkrupp

    viktorkrupp New Member Full Member

    32
    0
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Dec 29, 2007
    I always heard that to, and believed it for a long time, so i don't say this lightly.

    I am training a fighter and we tested several methods and here is what we found out;
    working with a good friend who is strength and conditioning specialist from UT in Austin. we wrote down everything we ate and didn't change the diet at all. After hydrostatic weighing (we did this every week its nice to do things for science because this gets expensive), He put both a fighter I am training and me on a heart rate monitor and we ran an intraval workout as our exclusive conditioning training (outside boxing) no other running. for two weeks

    we followed this with two weeks of standard training.

    the third two weeks we ran my normal 15 (5 miles 3x week) miles week 1 and upped the milage to 18 (4.5 miles 4x a week) week 2

    What we found was that sprints burned fat at a high rate BUT the associated gain in muscsle mass increased overall weight. That is to say that building muscle burns more fat, but our weight stayed the same. In the long run you'll gain weight using sprints, granted it is muscle, but you should calculate that when planning your workouts.
    In contrast the long runs burned fat without adding weight. I lost just under 3 lbs of fat week 5 and over 4 pounds week 6 while keeping the same lean body mass and improving our overall condition.
    This is not too big a deal for me since I am a heavyweight, and don't compete any more (at least at the moment) but to my fighter who is a 160 pounder it is a huge difference.
     
  3. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie booted

    13,162
    1
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 27, 2005
    Interesting point :good
     
  4. Pork Chop

    Pork Chop Member Full Member

    434
    0
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Jun 10, 2006
    I think I'm going to extend the walks with my dog to a few miles every night before bed to try to replace the running; just making sure the walking is brisk.

    Next week I'm also going to add sprint sessions on the elliptical before I lift.

    That way, at least I'm mixing up the methods and doing what I can to compensate for the jogging.
     
  5. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie booted

    13,162
    1
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 27, 2005
    Just curious, what kind of leg injury do you have? I have bad knees, but taking glucosamine / chondoitrine helped a lot. I replaced running with actual roadwork, going at least half the distance back and sidewards, stopping for pushups, bodyweight squats and shadowboxing a few times.
     
  6. Pork Chop

    Pork Chop Member Full Member

    434
    0
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Jun 10, 2006
    I was born club foot.
    My right leg is smaller than my left, my right foot smaller by 2 shoe sizes, my right ankle smaller by an inch in circumference, my right calf by at least an inch and a half in circumference.

    My right foot isn't just flat-footed, it bends backwards when I go up on my toes.
    I don't have a callous on the ball of my right foot- but on the side of my foot.
    I actually fight southpaw because I'm not able to push off the ball of my right foot much.

    I've never been able to run fast. I was captain of my swim team in high school, and got my weight down to 140lbs at 5'10; but couldn't break a 7 minute mile. I was cut from every sport except swimming growing up.

    When I jog more than maybe a mile, right away, after the first or second session, I'm immediately plagued with back, hip, and knee problems - that don't go away with regular jogging. It would heal up a little quicker when I was younger (and lighter) so I could at least jog a couple times a week. Problem's getting worse as I get older, it's not healing up as quick, so I'm on the look out for alternatives.

    I like the elliptical crosstrainer (where you work your arms too), I usually set it on a real high setting & do sprints. It reminds me of a versaclimber when you put it on a high setting. When I go longer than 20 or 30 minutes, my feet start going numb. hehe

    Walking's also not too bad. Wind-wise I don't feel anything, but apparently it's supposed to have similar V-O2 benefits to jogging.

    Swimming's cool, but once you reach a certain level technique-wise, it takes a serious time commitment to get a decent workout. Swam for 40minutes the other weekend and barely felt like I'd done anything. I still try to make it to the pool at least once a week; more because I enjoy it than trying to get a workout. I imagine I'd have to swim 2 hours a session, 3 times a week to drop much weight from it.
     
  7. Thumpa50814

    Thumpa50814 Member Full Member

    296
    0
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Jun 15, 2008
    these are all guys from my area marciano and hagler and i believ in the traditional methods mixed in with some new school techniques we are always tryin to advance ourselves
     
  8. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie booted

    13,162
    1
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 27, 2005
    Oh, that sucks. Not much you can do about that. Good thing boxing is not a sport that requires symmetry, quite the opposite in fact (orthodox vs. southpaw).

    How about rowing for exercise? A kayak for example? I love doing that, it's a decent workout. The weather doesn't always allow it though.
     
  9. naseem hamed

    naseem hamed New Member Full Member

    6
    0
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Apr 20, 2011
    Calzaghe does use 2kg weights I'm pretty sure I have seen him using them on his documentry
     
  10. Arranmcl

    Arranmcl Arran Full Member

    3,224
    0
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Jan 2, 2011
    :****off
     
  11. Spooner21

    Spooner21 Member Full Member

    280
    0
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Apr 4, 2011
    i dont think muscles will make or break a boxer of calzaghes calibre. he wins not because of doing pushups and chinups, he wins because hes a better boxer. strength training is a small piece of the puzzle for many fighters. you can still be flexible and fast and have endurance if you lift. you just gotta know how to train. it can benefit anyone in my opinion. but alot of uneducated trainers frown upon it. they have very little knowledge of it
     
  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Obsessed with Boxing booted Full Member

    41,212
    3,536
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Sep 22, 2010
    zaghes needed the extra roadwork for his style to work,. that of outlasting superiorly skilled opponents.

    Had he used weights he would have lost some of his extra fitness, becoming a weaker allround fighter and losing fights that he won through gassing out opps.
     
  13. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

    2,324
    1
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Nov 19, 2010
    This was the funniest thread i have ever read. Nobel prize for the most patient esb member goes to virus :lol:
    There are still people who dont understand the difference between bodybuilding and weight training, and who dont know the basics of human anatomy and physiology.


    And this isnt true.
     
    Pat M likes this.
  14. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,492
    99
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Aug 28, 2007
    My brain hurts after skimming over this crap. So many ignorant ******s lived on this board in the past.

    Lefty changed his opinion a hell of a lot after this thread. :lol: I do miss some of the guys, though, they were always good to laugh at.
     
    Pat M likes this.
  15. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

    2,324
    1
    Sportsbook:
    1,000
    Nov 19, 2010
    I was at work yesterday and on my breakes and in the library i scrolled through 23 pages of this crap,couldnt believe it :lol: Funny as hell!