Calzaghe's Old School Training

I agree with sprinting the same way I agree with weights. It's suboptimal. It will improve fitness, but not as good as specific exersize would. You are right, running has **** to do with boxing either. I quit running because of **** knees, but my stamina has never been better for some reason. If you run too much you may lose power in the legs, or mess up some other balance. Like I said I'm not arrogant enough to think I know everything, my body knows it much better.

I think you have a healthy approach to the weights issue, once a week sounds just fine. If you do it in between technical boxing sessions (as opposed to conditioning drills and the likes) it does not intervene with actual boxing training. And as long as you stick to compound lifts it can be beneficial.

 

That does hinder the discussion somewhat indeed.

Explosive compared to regular lifting? Yes. Explosive compared to a punch? No.

 

Read my posts for the stopwatch reference,Look at nearly all the guys that moved up,they all lost speed,stamina and sometimes power...
And the heavweights that weight train have less stamina and punch output than guys of yesteryear...
As for powerlifting,well have you guys examples of any guys that improved power/speed after powerlifting,i understand the difference between body building,powerlifting and olympic lifting,but you guys dont seem to understand that weights in boxing are not correlated to increases in speed/power in punching in the same way that it has been proved/shown in disciplines like 100 m sprinting that weight training is beneficial......

 

****in hell!! what about a stopwatch?!!!!!

heavyweight dont have bad stamina because of weight training but because of NEGLECTING CONDITIONING!

wladimir klitschko is probably the most conditioned heavyweight we have today and he weight trains, and WHO went up in weight and became slower and lost power, WHO!?

it may also have something to do with following a hypertrophy routine.

 

There really is no such thing as "modern training methods" in boxing because modern training has no "method" whatsoever. All they have is a hodge podge of silly ass ideas they read about in some stupid bodybuilding magazine. When boxers have to dry out to the tune of 15 or 20 pounds for a fight, that has to tell you everything you need to know about the foolishness of their training.

 

I think you're having problems understanding very basic things here. Weight training is a very small component of a boxer, if someone wants a bit more strength get him/here lifting weights, doing this will not make them a better boxer but it will make them stronger and or faster and or have improved endurance. Now, do you understand?

 

We understand you are talking nonsense because you have no proof that it has ever happened.

 

What ever happened? I'm not talking about a specific event, I'm talking about the way the human body reacts to increased resistance. So you don't believe lifting weights can potentially improve strength, speed and endurance?

 

The question isn't "will lifting improve strength" because it probably will. The question is "will it improve strength more than sports specific training" (bag work in this case). And then there's speed which is more questionable since a punch is much faster than whatever lift you can come up with. It's like putting a truck engine in a race car and expect it to be faster because it has more horsepower.

My conclusion is yes it may help you but you would have been better off doing regular boxing workout.

 

Freddie Roach former strength and conditioning coach Justin Fortune was a former Powerlifting champion. He was the one who managed Pacmans strength and conditioning...did a pretty good job to me. Hatton also does weights and he uses his strength very well in the ring aswell as keep up a great stamina.

 

Well in his last fights you are right, but prior to that Toney never had stamina issues. Even at cruiserweight. I heard on many occasions that all James does is sparring, he's very lazy in other disciplines.

He lost some fights because he's too defensive sometimes. I don't think he does that to rest. I have the same tendency while sparring, if it doesn't connect I'm not bothered, but a judge sees it as aggression and rewards it.