Calzaghes Resume looks even worse now!!!!

Your logic is devoid of any common sense though. You go by on statistics and Boxrec, and that's about all that matters for you when you do your little rankings.

Calzaghe wasn't even an ATG anyway. What made people believe Kessler was a great win? Wishful thinking on the part of Calzaghe fans most likely, as Kessler has never proved himself against the best in the world, not enough to actually come out victorious anyway. I believe Ward is a great fighter, and a bad stylistic match-up. That coupled with Kessler's sporadic schedule, we shouldn't have been to surprised.

 

Its a bit early to be jumping to conclusions.

Lets wait and see what Ward becomes.

Lets wait and see what happens in the rest of the tournament.

 

Ofcourse Kessler should be a 3 time champ after his next fight and go onto the semis and after that might reach the final

 

Just because Kessler lost does not mean he is ordinary. I still pick him to beat Froch and Taylor and move on to the half finals.

 

He also could have unified with Beyer and/or Ottke. If he would have wanted to the fights would have been made - and no I don't think it's his fault alone, mostly it's the fault of Warren and Sauerland.

 

Kessler did not get exposed damn. Did Pac got exposed by the guys he lost to? Why can't you lose a fight nowadays without beeing exposed, a bum, ruined, shot, done and so on? I don't get it.

 

Yes but two things are going to happen in the near future.

Kessler is going to have aditional fights in the tournament.

Ward is going to have aditional fights inb the tournament.

I submit that both their standings remain verry fluid for the forseable future.

 

I don't think Kessler was anytime something more than just a contender type taking the whole boxing history into account.

But let's compare the way Calzaghe's and Ward's win over Kessler. Both used Kessler's weaknesses against him. They used their speed advantage, unusual angles, high workrate and either awkward style or dirty tactics to throw him off his rythm. Ward and Calzaghe have enough similarities which could lead you to the conclusion their dominant wins over Kessler could be style things.

Ward pulled a Hopkins on Kessler yesterday. Using headbutts, elbows, low blows and hitting and holding. He did so to throw him of his rythm to not let him settle down. I don't knock him for that, it's boxing and not the kindergarden. The difference between Hopkins and Ward is that Ward was so obvious with it. The referee should have seen it. But he didn't instead he warned Kessler in between rounds - at least in the replay I saw but there where most of the in between rounds not shown. And these dirty tactics were a good part of Ward's gameplan, if the ref wouldn't have allowed him these kind of tactics the fight would have looked a bit different I think - I don't say Kessler would have won.

Ward looked good yesterday but I think it has largely to do with his style advantage. I still pick AA to beat him and I think the Taylor who fought AA would pose a serious problem for him.

Does this diminish Calzaghe's record? I never thought anything about Kessler than beeing a very good fighter. And this point of view didn't change after he got beaten by Ward, so no, Joe C.'s record is still as good as before.

 

As I understand it the next round of the tournament should be:

Abraham - Dirrell
Kessler - Froch
Ward - Taylor

We would have to consider Abraham and Ward the current frontrunners but both are going to be matched against opponents who pose stylistic problems for them. Kessler arguably has a match that puts him at a stylistic advantage. The face of the tournament could change dramaticaly.

 

There is a tendency for fans to see a fighter as only being as good as his last performence.

I am sure that there were people ready to write off Sugar Ray Robinson after LaMotta beat him.

 

Kessler was a good boxer and good win for Calzaghe.
I still think Kessler will beat Froch.

But Kessler was never great, and anyone who doesn't think Calzaghe has a WEAK RESUME is ill informed.
I think Calzaghe was arguably great in spite of his opposition, but certainly not because of it.

 

A bit different considering Robinson was just coming up from LW to WW at the time and fighting a leading MW