Camacho Sr vs Judah @ 140

Camacho by a large margin...By this point I am not sure he could score a KO even on the overhyped judah...But after a competitive round or 2, Camacho runs away with it.

 

Good matchup. Judah had a lot of power and speed at his best. He went down hill mentally quickly in boxing, especially after leaving Main Events and the whole Tsyzu debacle, but Judah at his best would beat Camacho at his best in my opinion. Camacho was quick but Judah was quicker and punched harder.

 

Different kind of speed. Camacho was fast on his feet too. Judah was very explosive and fast as a boxer puncher, especially when he was finishing an opponent when had them hurt.

 

I think Camacho would have started fast, and probably would have decked Judah in the first or second. Hector would have had a lead that he would have protected from then on out as Judah would have warmed to the task and would have managed to land some pretty good shots himself in the mid rounds of 5 thru 8, however Camacho was sooo fast , and wasn't interested at all in proving his valor, so he would have been strictly on maintenance mode from then on thru 12 and would have won a decision. It would have been somewhat similar to Zab's fight with Mayweather, in that Camacho was a shade or two above him in every department except maybe for one shot power. Hector wouldn't have been tempted to come out into the open, and would have held whenever Zab got too personal.

 

Different kind of speed??? Not sure I agree, Judah was very quick, but I don't see him in the realm of Camacho (who I personally don't like).... Junior Witter, maybe Judahs best display of boxing or Millet his best show of power over a good name (not great). I don't see how his speed would affect Hector, or his power camacho fared well against men more powerful than Judah.

 

That wasnt the best Zab in the Mayweather fight. Im talking pre Tsyzu. Camacho's speed would have offset some of Zabs combination punching, but Camachos lack of punching power would have allowed Judah to get closer and closer as the fight progressed. I just remember Camacho dinging and dinging Chavez and it did nothing, but cost him a horrendous beating when he had to actually stand and fight a bit. Zabs chin wasnt the greatest, but Camacho couldnt crack an egg.
Camacho was a tremendous fighter, but Zab to me is one of the biggest wastes of talent. He could have been a lot better fighter than he turned out to be.

 

Mentally he was not the same really, and yes that is a big part of the sport and a major flaw of Zab's, but the potential was there. He had fought tough work horses like Mickey Ward and Terron Millet, and speedy boxers like Bergman and Wittier. He showed some good overall skills. I think your overating Camacho a bit, but thats ok, your entitled to your opinion. I think if Judah would have stayed with Duva and their management and trainers Roger Bloodworth and Ronnie Shields, etc who he worked with in the gym, he would have accomplished a lot more in his career. His father bought into that whole ghetto persona. At 140 he was a huge puncher.

 

I respect your opinion but that fight wasnt at 140, besides were talking about an awkward southpaw that punched in explosive combinations, you cant compare that to Rosario either.
Zab faced some pretty slick guys, taller, heavier and that punched much harder than Camacho and he did fairly well against them, so I think its a good competitive fight. Camacho did well against one dimensional forward coming fighters because of his skills, unless he was overpowered.
I wasnt a huge fan of Zabs, but the guy had tremendous talent early on. He idolized Whitaker in the beginning of his career, and was developing a nice style that complimented his power and Peas elusiveness, working with Pea in the gym under Main Events. Thats what Im talking about things could have been different for him.