Camacho vs Rosario decision?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by PhillyPhan69, Oct 13, 2010.


  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know Rosario had good / great power as a lightweight, but his frame was kinda' on the small side there... Rosario was not a big 135 pounder in build at all...

    Christ, when Chavez moved up to 135 to challenge Rosario on HBO in 1987, Chavez looked huge in that ring next to Rosario who too was 135 pounds... Chavez basically walked right through Rosario with both hands, etc....

    MR.BILL:deal:thumbsup
     
  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Chavez was very special, how many in history could have done the same. ATG performance and then some.
     
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  3. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    That's all I meant. :good


    I'd watch that fight. It'd be better than Holmes/Bonecrusher II. :deal
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    For sure, if anything Chavez might be underdone in here.
     
  5. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i had camacho way ahead. too much speed
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Camacho had great speed, and it was evident in this fight...it was probably the determining factor in him edging this fight on the cards.

    BUT...How did you have him way ahead????
    Rd 3-4 were not really close for Rosario
    RD 5 was a blowout and potentially 10-8 for Rosario
    11 was huge for Rosario
    12 was not really close in Rosarios favor

    at worst Rosario lost 7-5 in terms of rds.

    7-8 were both close, I felt Camacho edged 7 & Rosario edged 8...even if you had both for camacho that would be 116-112 (or 115-112 if you scored 10-8 in rd 5).

    Not sure if you are exagerating the WAY AHEAD comment, or if you scored this fight differently???
     
  7. Baclava

    Baclava Active Member Full Member

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    I just scored this fight and I had Rosario winning pretty clearly. The HBO commentary was totally biased, they made it look like Camacho was winning the fight.
    I scored it 6 rounds to 3 for Rosario with 3 rounds even. Round 5 was a 10-8 round for Rosario on my scorecard.
    Camacho was moving away and Rosario was pressing forward the whole fight. And almost all the hard punches were landed by Rosario.
    Camacho (may he R.I.P.) never gave up and he lasted the distance, but he didn't win this fight at all in my book.
     
  8. wisedrunk

    wisedrunk New Member Full Member

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    thats not the point, the point he was making was that camacho wasnt at his best, he was not trying to say that chaves wouldnt "embarrass" him. one thing i noticed also is the fact that they agreed to have the fight in a small ring and that definitely would make it harder for any outside boxer like camacho to fight a pressure fighter like chavez, NO i am not saying camacho would have won i am simply saying exactly what i said the fact that it would make it harder for any outside boxer to fight a pressure fighter in a small ring. These small details actually matter, because they can mess up the quality of a fight(even if by a tad bit) and thats important for passionate fans(at least some lol) cause they wana see the fighters they watch at there very best, giving it there all.Anyways hope i didnt get you pissed or frustrated in anyway, just trying to talk some boxing;)
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Yeah, I had 6-5-1 Camacho. 5 wasn't quite 10-8 territory for me and I didn't give Rosario Round 8 either. Rosario let the fight slip away from him after Round 5 and didn't get it back until the championship rounds.
     
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  10. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had Camacho winning by 1 point........so sad they are both gone
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Camacho won a very close fight.

    But he lost the war. He adopted a much more safety first style after this fight.

    I remember a quote of his at the time something to the effect if getting hit is Macho I don't want any part of it, or something like that. He was psychology scarred from his brush with defeat. He basically lost his ****sure confidence.
     
  12. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had Rosario up by one point.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    @mark ant Here is SS's scorecard for Rosario - Camacho. He gave 9 and 10 to Macho but with Rosario still winning well.
     
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  14. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    I recorded that fight on HBO that evening, saw it with my brother in law and his cousin. We all thought that El Chapo won a close contest over Hector.
     
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  15. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Shows just how bloody good Chavez was..