Can A Case Be Made To Place Duran At #1 P4P All Time?

One name: Tommy Hearns.

In SRR's entire 201 match professional career (and 286 combined amateur and pro bouts combined), nobody ever punched Ray into a stoppage defeat. While I think a very strong case can be made for Duran at number two, the fact is that Robby, in his first 216 amateur and professional matches combined, had an overall record of 213-1-2 with 153 knockouts. These are staggering totals. Duran's record simply doesn't measure up to that.

 

he cannot be # 1.....even if he was # 2 which he isnt he cannot pass srr

 

Good point regarding his devastating knockout loss to Hearns. Aside from that, he simply doesn't stack up to Robinson.

That said, I watched him against Buchanan (again) last night on ESPN Classic, and wow, what a machine. It is amazing the ferocity he brought to his fights.

 

A good case can be made, and to argue beyond SRR and Armstrong is difficult. It's hard to pick against him at any weight at his best. ANY WEIGHT...

 

I'm amazed at how strongly I can agree with you and how much I can disagree with you, Sweet Pea... Although your list here isn't that bad.

 

Yes at 135, Duran could beat anyone and that was the natural weight for his frame, if you enlarged him to 6"3 he would proberly weigh 215 and a heavyweight Duran would have wiped out Ali, Frazier, Foreman

 

Perfect reply to the "any weight" point.

 

No, I wouldn't say so.

 

Not number 1, top 5 though

 

probably not #1 but somewhere up there.

 

I think you could make a good case for him. He is generally considered to be the best lightweight of all time and gave SRL generally considered to be a top 3 all time Welter a beating when motivated, past his prime and and 3 weights over his best he went the distance and almost beat Hagler generally considered to be the best middleweight of all time - or at least a top 3 all time middle.

When he was up for it he would stand a chance against any fighter and his acheivements make a good case for him to be considered the greatest of all time. Robinson is considered untouchable - but didn't always impress, if you watch his fights he is dropped and shaken up plenty of timesand beaten.

As for Harry Greb - thats just being silly let at least talk about fighters we can watch rather than myths and legends. Greb may or may not have been great but the truth is there is no way near enough footage of him to make a assessment. Durans fights are there to see and none of us know how one generation would truely far against another but it his best Duran would take some stopping and is a deadcert all time top 3 p4p.

 

New Orleans says 'No'.

 

New Orleans is instrumental as to why the answer could be yes, to certain people...