Can A Case Be Made To Place Duran At #1 P4P All Time?

If Duran was born a natural heavyweight he'd be right in the thick of that mix. There would be every chance he emerge at the top of the pile. Ali pre-exile would be his hardest stylistically.

 

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I can never come up with a ranked list of boxers, only a group of top 10, and Duran is in my top ten.

 

Exactly.

 

Not number one, that's Ray Robinson. But top five is legit

 

What? If he was hw with the same style that he had then foreman would be all wrong for him,duran would be a skilled puncher but still a fighter of the short-mid distance. Foreman would kill him

 

You're not picturing a 220 pound 5'7" Duran with a 66" reach are you?

Duran would school Foreman P4P imo. Picture him at his 135 greatest. ATG chin, ATG power, plenty of speed, immense technical skills, brilliant defense. Look at the way he rolls with huge punches to lessen their impact. Look at the way he counters loose attacks. Look at his great stamina.

Picture George with his wide cumbersome (albeit lethal and powerful) swings and straight forward technique. Roberto would see his punches coming a mile away. He'd be countering, rolling with them and belting back hard. He'd sit back like he did in the 3rd DeJesus fight and play the patient boxer/puncher. Imagine when George tired.

Foreman's only chance at all would be to get him early and the chances of that would be very minute. Whatever natural weight Duran was born at he was going to be hell on wheels that's for sure. It's up in the air whether even Clay could outbox him over 15.

 

Yes he specifically tried to use the prefight interviews and tactics to help him get an advantage in the fights, something he learned from Duran. Hearns 1,, wanting Tommy to be aggressive so he can counter- insulting Tommy.. Duran 2 he boxed, and look at the first round of both June 80 and Nov. 80 to see the variable Ray moving. Hagler in 1987.. Being nice to Hagler and boxing and knowing not to get Hagler mad. He learned. He learned how to handpick guys also so he would not have tough fights but that almost backfired on him. What he did was he became a complete fighter inside and outside of the ring. The mistake he made with Duran was fighting Duran's fight because of being mad at Duran. He admitted it.

 

So, he didn’t really improve as a Boxer then.

 

yes he did. He became a complete great fighter. Before that he was not the Sugar Ray Leonard who was great.

 

Lol you have the balls of duran in your mouth

 

Foreman's nuts would be at a point well behind your tonsils by comparison

Duran is much higher rated P4P than George. Nothing against George but there's a reason for that. Duran is on another level, or two.

 

1- duran is not rated "much higher"than george. Both are in the top 20. Foreman 20 and duran 6
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Well the term pfp means nothing . the only important thing is that foreman would kill duran in a fight like i smash a roach

 

Foreman isn't in the top 20 in any respectable lists i've seen. Matt has him #100 and Duran #10. He makes #6 on his heavyweight list. The Ring's 80 greatest in the last 80 years has Duran at #5 and Foreman at #25.

Duran is indeed much higher than George. When talking ATG lists the difference between 25 and 5 is huge let alone 10 and 100.

Duran is a greater fighter than George period. That's nothing to be ashamed of as he leaves just about everyone in his wake. Embrace him.

 

Lol "any respectable list" espn has him the 20 and duran 6 it is not a huge difference taking in count the number of good boxers in history

 

And foreman in the 100 is just a joke and a complete shi7 list and only an idiot would support this garbage