Can a grappler become a good striker easier than a striker become good at grappling?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Dave_j1985, Jul 3, 2009.


  1. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree with that.

    I'd rather learn boxing properly at a boxing gym than have some mid-level amatuer boxer teach me how to box at an MMA gym. My experiences at boxing gyms are far greater than boxing classes at MMA gyms.
     
  2. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with this, In MMA you can learn enough basic striking to allow yourself to setup a takedown using strikes.

    But striking itself is far more complex than that.
     
  3. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Well i'll say this, I've become a much better boxer in 3 years than I've become a grappler in the same ammount of time.

    But it's different for people.
     
  4. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It depends but i think it's easier to become a good striker than a good wrestler.

    Prime example
    Diego Sanchez and Josh Koscheck- both were great wrestlers coming in the ufc and have become good striker.

    Cheick Kongo still suck with his grappling
     
  5. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Koscheck is not a good striker though. Far from it. Diego has improved but still has a ways to go.

    And like I said earlier, grappling in MMA operates at a much higher skill level than striking. In MMA, there are many A-B level grapplers, but there are only a couple B level strikers and the rest are C-D-F level strikers.

    So yeah, Koscheck might look good against a D level striker but can he look good against a B-C level striker?

    And Kongo definitely cant fight on the ground, but Hughes still cant fight on his feet, neither can Maia, Palhares, Leites, Monson, Werdum and many, many others.
     
  6. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I pick up boxing way faster than wrestling. I credit that to countless of hours spent watching boxing unlike wrestling though. Wrestling, starting out, was the most awkward ****ing thing I ever did(started at 15)
     
  7. OuterDrake

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    you could spar jujitsu everyday with little injury, its organic form of combat, striking and boxing are very demanding on the body, especially your brain.
     
  8. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can agree with that. I also watched countless boxing instructional videos on youtube ie. footwork, hooks, jabs, uppercuts, heavybag work, speed bag drills, body punching, inside fighting, outside fighting, slipping, countering, parrying, ring generalship etc etc.

    Obviously, you have to go out there and perform and execute these techniques but they are absolutely a great starting point and definitely helped me out alot.
     
  9. jrow

    jrow Active Member Full Member

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    i understand where your comin from,but not every mma teacher is going to be like that,the teacher i worked with was a had a little amature and pro expierence in boxing and now teaches mma,he also has a black belt in karate and has some kick boxing and m.t. experience so its a win win situation 4 me......lol
     
  10. TheStraightLeft

    TheStraightLeft New Member Full Member

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    It would be interesting to see what the response is if this same question was asked in a grappling forum.
     
  11. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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    you think koscheck is a good striker he got out striked and knocked out by a guy whose stand up is abismal
     
  12. bachatu

    bachatu Pro Full Member

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    I agree, Koscheck has no striking. He is just wild and lets his hands go, it just happens he connects from time to time.
     
  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Frank Shamrock seemed to think grappling was easier to master than boxing. He said it was more natural and organic, and I think he has a point. Learning boxing is not just about technique, it's also about battling your instincts. Just a seemingly simple thing as keeping your chin down both when punching and being punched at takes quite a while to master.
     
  14. Wilhelm

    Wilhelm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I tend to agree with this. Grabbing and struggling to get under someone's center of gravity feels very natural, whereas a lot of boxing's techniques are counter intuitive.

    There will always be differences though based on how you're built and your natural skills, but also a ton on COACHING. If you have a coach that knows his stuff and teaches the way you learn, you'll progress a lot faster than you normally would.
     
  15. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It really depends on a person.