can a shot fighter return to his original prime

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  1. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    curious. Did Foreman look shot before he defeated Moorer?
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    yes
     
  3. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I dont think he can return to his prime but most great fighters have one last great fight left in him ala Duran-Barkley,Pep-Saddler 2,Robinson-Fullmer 2,Holmes-Mercer ETC. Now looking a guy in Morales situation or Fernando Vargas where they are shot beyoug repair its virtually impossible for me to see Vargas come back at 160 and pull of a win over Pavlik or Morales go and beat Casamayor or Juan Diaz when he couldnt even beat David Diaz. But maybe a guy like RJJ whos reflexes have eroded and his legs arent moving anymore but he still has that hand speed to make guys cover up in aww he could turn back the clock somewhat and beat a great fighter out there.
     
  4. dave82

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    Sweet :good
    To knock out a guy like Moorer after losing to Tommy M is a great achievement
     
  5. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also after Evander was landing 8 punch combos on his head all night just 3 years earlier.
     
  6. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Any HW that would hit and run could beat George. Moorer for some reason thought it was okay to stand in there and slug. George walked away and reinvented himself to a likable fighter instead of that Tysonish fighter he use to be. Morales is talking about coming back after a long rest. You never know, he might have a couple more fights left in him. Again, if RJJ had left the game after the win over Ruiz, he could have came back without getting knocked out like he did.
     
  7. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    Evander wasn't **** after his loss to Moorer but his comback in 96 was amazing
     
  8. jimmie

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    Not just the Moorer loss but he had just been stopped by Bowe ending that extremly violent trilogy plus he was in his mid 30s he really shouldve been done. But he had one of those 2nd wind type deals in a boxers career he beat Tyson then Moorer and was on top of the world. Shane Mosley after the 2nd Wright fight most NOT ME thought he was done and he didnt even look hot vs decent oppostion Cruz and Estrada. But he put it together agian beating the **** out of Vargas who still had something left at that point,Collazo and a 1-2 point fight either way with Cotto and hes considered one of the best out there still.
     
  9. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought his fight with Moorer could have gone either way so it wasnt a bad performance
     
  10. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    return - no

    reinvent - yes
     
  11. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    I wouldn't go that far, but he has certainly changed his style now so that he doesn't rely as much on his natural reflexes anymore. I think Roy is still a very tough fighter for anyone at the moment, based on the changes he has made. He isn't the same fighter that got KTFO by Glen Johnson, thats for sure.
     
  12. Florida boy

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    shot and aging are two different things. you age naturally, you become shot from absorbing punches.
     
  13. Florida boy

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    hes using the high guard, kinda like winky, and hes not really relying as much(though he still carries that left low) on his reflexes.
     
  14. jimmie

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    Hes jabbing slightly more as well. Hes being a bit more techniqual I noticed him throwing double lefthooks vs Tito and keeping his right hand up on his cheek. In the past hed just jump in from a wild angle throwing 2 lefthooks leaving his right either well above his head or down at his waist or around the chest.
     
  15. Florida boy

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    very true.