Can Al Haymon make boxing mainstream again?

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  1. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

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    How will boxing actually change because of Haymon?

    He has brought boxing back to half a dozen network TV channels; his shows continue to get good ratings, and the lawsuits levelled against him are essentially nonsense.

    He's got nearly 200 fighters under his stable...will boxing become mainstream because of Haymon?

    Haymon has an Economics degree from Harvard, he made Mayweather what he is now and he's managed the likes of Whitney Houston. Will he actually make boxing mainstream again? Investors and networks seem to trust him with ridiculous amounts of money, so he has a plan
     
  2. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No. Its unfortunate, but no. At least not with the way PBC has been going. It would take a major change. The past month or so was actually pretty decent, if you count undercards but the upcoming schedule is terrible.

    Not going to get any converts with that schedule, nor will you get mainstream sportswriters or pundit shows talking much about it.
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure, we aren't even thru a full yr of this PBC experiment just yet

    I think hes giving the exposure that is necessary but I think the problem is HBO still has a lot of stars and the PPV model is probably as strong as ever with some of the numbers getting raked

    If Haymon could get more fighters on board like GGG or Floyd to fight on free tv maybe

    Plus with NBC and ESPN in on it that may lead to more Sports talk shows and highlight shows and investigative reporting shows to be involved in the sport more.

    I think by the end of 2016 we will know just how much staying power and potential we have
     
  4. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

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    Haymon already has mainstream writers. Since his deals with ESPN and Fox, they've updated their boxing coverage.

    ESPN is the biggest sports website and they have boxing in the header.
     
  5. Rampage88

    Rampage88 Active Member Full Member

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    In the USA, I doubt it.

    I was expecting the viewing figures on free TV to be 10-15 million, considering large population, but it's doing lower viewing figures than what free boxing on ITV does in the UK and the UK's population is 5 times less.
     
  6. BoxerFan89

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    Boxing here in the UK is pretty big. Btw do you have any sources for ITV boxing pulling those numbers?

    But even in the US, I think it may take some time to get to 10-15 million figures. It doesn't just happen overnight.

    There must be something that can be done to make boxing mainstream in the USA again, I think Haymon has the best chance to do that.
     
  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    It might, but seems unlikely that the current setup is going to work.

    The viewer numbers are far too low at this point to cover the costs. With the current money he's paying these guys it won't take long before the bottom is showing, wich spells doom for the format. (just compare European and Asian free tv viewer numbers against the US ones)

    Also, if it does work and the viewer # will go up massively, there's a good chance the viewers will find out that the PBC champions don't cover all of boxing, and actually seem to lack most of the division's top dogs on the roster.
    If the US public doesn't care then fine, but if they stop watching because some b-sider calls himself champ and defends against a couple of stiffs, the format will fail too.
     
  8. nickpoppunk

    nickpoppunk Unbelievable Bentekkers Full Member

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    haymon has a great chance of getting boxing mainstream again with PBC on free tv, however the BIG fights are all on PPV so it will be extremely difficult
     
  9. Rampage88

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    http://www.irish-boxing.com/millions-watch-frampton-itv/

    Frampton on ITV1 got a peak of 1.9m vs Avalos and vs Gonzalez peaked at 2.4m and he's still a growing name, with almost no advertising for either of the fights. When bigger names like Khan were on ITV1 he was getting around 4m viewers, that was quite a few years ago though.

    The US population is about 5 times bigger than the UK and the viewing figures for big name fighters fighting on HBO or Showtime are usually about 5-10 times bigger than Sky's big names, so I thought boxing in America was gonna boom to at least 10 million viewers when they had fighters like Garcia, Thurman and Quillin fighting on NBC.
     
  10. BoxerFan89

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    Interesting.