Can any fighter pass the Floyd Mayweather Assessment?

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  1. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    No, the context of the post was clearly using H2H comparisons with larger fighters to make Floyd look worse P4P, as I said in the Opie, which was clearly about P4P, as it even had a joke P4P ranking, in reference to the P4P comparison of Floyd and Leonard, where people repeatedly made H2H comparisons to try to make Floyd look worse.

    No where was P4P not relevant.
     
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    The context I replied to was H2H. You can't blur the line to make him look better as well. It's always 130 Floyd would kill anyone pound for pound, yet he fought at at the same weight as other fighters. If he stopped at 130 and never went higher then yes P4P would be the way to go. But he did fight at these weights so you have to look at his whole body of work not only how great he was at 130 and he'll wreck everyone.
     
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    ???

    What context? What were you responding to that wasn't about rating him P4P?

    What other fighters get critisized for imaginary poor H2H performaces way above their best weight because "they fought there"?

    Should Robinson be evaluated by how he'd do against Michael Spinks and Archie Moore?
     
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    Floyd is undoubtedly one of the greats of history, but I will allow one legitimate criticism.

    He did avoid the most dangerous opposition, at their absolute peaks.

    That hurts him, given what he is up against!
     
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  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    There's certainly legitimate critisism. That said, while several of Floyd's wins we against past it opposition, I think him avoiding people gets really oversold. Both sides deserve blame for the Pacquaio situation, and a lot of other guys he fought when past it were in higher weightclasses.

    I have no problem with people discussing legit critisism, but not when it's inflated for some fighters, and overlooked with others.

    You do see the other side in some other circles, where the fact several of Floyd's opponents weren't at their best is overlooked etc.
     
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