Can any heavyweight from history realistically beat Tyson Fury?

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Unbelievable skill set? If that slappy flailing clown is hard for you to believe no wonder you can’t comprehend Ezzard Charles.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Bingo.

    This would be more than interesting!
     
  3. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's the issue, there just isn't enough data. Whilst I suspect he does clear out the division and prove his ATG standing. He needs to actually fight the fights.

    Usyk and Joshua for obvious reasons.
    But definitely Joyce too, an unbeaten Olympian who is actually older than Fury. Even Andy Ruiz Jr. is making himself relevant again.

    There is so much meat left on the bone, only a child would leave table, and that's without even discussing the next generation coming through.

    He might have extraordinary ATG potential, but his resume is so thin you have to give the benefit of the doubt to the men who have been there and done it, even if I think size ultimately matters.
     
  4. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    Very well said.
     
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  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury is beatable. But, save a freak occurrence, he's not likely going to be an easy night for any heavyweight in history - quite probably the toughest of nights for most of them.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    I agree, he needs to be inspired and the bigger the danger the more on song he is likely to be. The dehumanisation of Wilder in the rematch was an absolute clinic no matter what one thinks of Wilder. He was still shaking off the rust in the first fight (which in all reality he won anyway) and went close to being stopped. Man did he come in prepared for that rematch tho. Made Wilder, admittedly lacking in skill, look like a rank amateur.

    A Usyk match would answer a lot of questions for both of them. How does Fury handle a smaller super skilled durable guy who really knows how to win? How does Usyk handle immense size and skill?

    It's a mouth watering matchup and it has the potential to be a very very important fight historically for both. It's not impossible that both could come out with their standing raised. For me it's one of the most important fights for many years.
     
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  7. Storm-Chaser

    Storm-Chaser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    George Foreman could probably come back out of retirement and beat Tyson Fury.
     
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  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Prime for prime, both men on their best night, I would pick...

    Ali, Foreman, Lennox, and Vitali to beat Fury.

    50-50: Liston, Holmes, Mike, Wlad,

    Very decent-chance underdogs:

    Bowe, Louis, Golota, Holyfield,, Marciano, Dempsey, Frazier.
     
  9. Wass85

    Wass85 Active Member banned Full Member

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    So a legit ATG then, if you're in that league there's no other explanation for him.

    His resume just doesn't shout out ATG but something tells you that his combination of size & skills would be hard to overcome for any fighter in history.
     
  10. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What’s that mean? You think Wilder hits like a sliding door? Never heard that before
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Sliding door moment is a moment where history diverges. So if there is a different referee in that fight and he waves Fury off at "3", Wilder is the man in the division and maybe he and AJ fight. Who knows what takes place after that. Fury might descend again into depression and self-abuse or he might work his way back and restore the current timeline at some point but the whole of HW history could also be different - it's not impossible to imagine AJ or Wilder joining the ranks of the ATGs as Fury may now do instead.
     
  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not surprising, the phrase is taken from the title of a 1998 romance movie starring Gwyneth Paltrow and the Scottish actor, John David Hannah...
    :lol:
     
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  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Ali, Mike Tyson, are the ones I feel could do it.
    If I had had to pick one for certain I'd say Lennox.
     
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  14. Wass85

    Wass85 Active Member banned Full Member

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    But then you think of how much Lewis struggled against Vitali Klitschko, yes he was past his prime but I have a feeling Lewis would have always had difficulties with elusive fighters bigger than himself.
     
  15. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Maybe, but if anyone can bring a big guy down it would be Lennox imo.