Can ANYBODY explain why Ward is fighting Smith?

He never coaxed him into anything.

It's Duran's fault that he was ****ing around and partying. Even if he was fully fit, SRL still would have made him no mas.

Him and Don King thought they could win and loved the money. But it wasn't a coax.

But anyways, Ward doesn't need this as much as Mosley did.

Ward can move on and keep making good money fighting in BET.

 

Garbage money, no doubt.

"I want to control everything" = I give you 10%, and I get 90%. Without a doubt.

If I was Ward, there is no way on this planet that I would take anything less than 50-50. If he never beat him before, that's a different story. But it isn't.

 

Ward's highest guaranteed purse ever was 1.8 mil and he has never made more as much as 1.4 mil in any other fight in his career. Oscar made $15 mil for the Shane rematch while Shane made $4.25mil and Oscar dictated absolutely everything. Froch just made 20+mil his last fight. You know how these things work.

 

come on man, Ray has admitted on many occasions he was very strategic about the Duran rematch.

 

Like I said already, Duran got 1.5 million in his first fight and was the overwhelming B side in the negotiations. He got 8-9 million the 2nd fight and got more guaranteed dollars than Leonard did.

I don't want to hear anything about it being a coax.

The fact is, Duran would not have taken 1.5 million for a second fight, or anything near that. He expected close to 50-50 and he got that.

Ward should get it too.

 

How does Ward not need it as much as Mosley? :think

 

He's definitely said it, but it wasn't a COAX. He created a strategy but it's ultimate Duran's fault for doing a Rid**** Bowe/Ricky Hatton between fights.

He shouldn't have taken the fight.

He still came in on weight and he was fighting fine.

 

If he did, he would have taken it, no?

He isn't someone who is greedy, he's very happy with what he has. And I'm sure he will be big in the future. He doesn't need to get ripped off and robbed in the UK.

That would be far more damaging to his career.

 

Come on man, the UK is no worse in terms of decisions than the US.

Shane did not need it as much as Ward. Shane was a much bigger star than Ward and made more money in the fight before the Oscar rematch than Ward ever has for a fight in his career.

 

Come on man..

Not the decisions, the stoppages. I've been very adamant about it and I think you know it from the bottom of your heart too. Look man, I'm not trying to be troll nationalistically. Just going by trends. The stoppages there are insane. As in insanely premature and bad.

If Ward even gets buzzed, they would more than likely stop the bout.

Shane's a pretty greedy guy, especially on his up and up.

 

It was relevant, his star power was growing exponentially. It's just that he had a lot of legal issues and it's dimmed. :deal

And I'm not lying. Froch confirmed it, he said he wanted to control everything against the guy who beat his ass.

No way Jose.

It's 50-50, maybe more for Ward or nothing.

 

If Shane's so greedy why did he accept an 80-20 split for the rematch? :think

Frock has been involved in 1 bad stoppage in his career. Ward got away with a battery of fouls when he fought Kessler in Oakland. It happens.

 

Because he needed the money :nod

Ward doesn't, Ward cares more about pride. That's the issue.

As he should. Why the hell would he give his inferior so much concessions.

Makes no damn sense. The guy who LOST needs to be giving concessions.

I hate the fact that these guys who lost is calling the winner a ducker for not fighting a rematch and conning the fans.