Exactly, and who has Bonnar really submitted of note? 2 of spider's subs are against maybe the two best wrestlers at 185
Silva and Machida could beat him. And at 265 there are some (does Jones really want to clinch with Carwin?). But it's too soon to know if he's really "unbeatable" some time ago the most people thought Machida is unbeatable until Shogun beat him 2 times in a row
Yes, he can be beat. Fedor has been beaten. Anderson Silva has been beaten. GSP has been beaten. Therefore, Bones can be beaten too. Who could potentially beat him? Not Anderson Silva - the stylistic matchup makes this an unwinnable fight for Anderson, barring some crane-kick miracle. Travis Lutter took Silva down when he wanted to, Chael Sonnen took Silva down repeatedly. Jones is much bigger, stronger, faster and more explosive than either of them, and his GnP is in another dimension. Not Rashad Evans - since his stankylegization at the hands of Machida, Evans is a different fighter. He was never exactly BJ Penn in the chin department, but the punch which had him breakdancing like MC Hammer in the 3rd round against a rusty, tired Rampage was an innocuous, glancing blow. The first time Jones touches that jaw, it's over. Not Rampage Jackson - Quinton hasn't knocked anyone out in over two and a half years. Since then he's had 4 dull points decisions in a row, and failed to put away either Keith Jardine or Matt Hamill. Rampage is toothless now, he doesn't have the speed, explosiveness or variety to stop Jones, and he sure as hell can't outpoint him. Possibly Lyoto Machida - Jones has never met anyone with a style similar to Machida's. Machida's movement and elusiveness from the outside allied to his speed and power springing into sudden attack could be just the combination which catches the confident younger fighter and puts him in trouble. This is probably the most interesting proposition of all. Possibly Shogun Rua - Despite what the Pride haters and Chute Boxe sceptics and Rua cynics say, the vast majority of people who have followed Shogun's career are well aware that he turned up flabby, out of shape and sluggish to his fight with Jones, same as he has done so for numerous other fights (Griffin, Coleman) when he comes off an injury or a surgery lay-off and hasn't got back to full fighting fitness and sharpness yet. A Rua with some consecutive fights behind him, like the Shogun of Machida 1, has the skills and the attributes needed to give any lightheavyweight in history nightmares. Who knows if he'd be good enough to beat Jones - but he would be good enough to make it a hell of a lot closer and more competitive than the fight they had. Possibly Phil Davis - Davis looks like the only top lhw with the strength, the bulk and the muscle, as well as the wrestling pedigree needed to match Jones in the wrestling/grappling department. If the fight stays standing, Davis gets executed. If he can keep getting it to the ground, it could get very interesting. Jones has so far dealt with good wrestlers with ease (Bader & Hamill), but I think Davis is stronger than either of them. Possibly Dan Henderson - Logic/rationality says Jones is too big, too fast and too varied for Dan, and that probably would be the case, but Hendo is a great wrestler with big power, and he'd have a realistic puncher's chance if nothing else, not a man to write off. :good
Oh, and both Junior dos Santos and Cain Velasquez beat him for sure, but I guess that's a bit unfair to say at this stage.
Let's examine yours As I pointed out, those fights were not against wrestlers. Except for the guys Ive mentioned Your right, The Gracies give away black belts. He is no Aoki who's list of BB's he's submitted include....ummmmm..... yeah :huh Subbing Sonnen makes you a BJJ artist, in your words, right? So once again I'll ask the question, which you have not answered Give me some examples of Anderson defending takedowns against wrestlers?
Anderson's BJJ isn't that impressive, at all, and it's been overblown for submitting a completely weight drained Lutter and for subbing Hendo who was on ***** street from a head kick. Oh, and Sonnen who gets triangled looking at a clothes hanger. Anderson doesn't have an offensive guard in the least. When taken down he either locks up a body triangle or closes guard and throws elbows. You never see him shifting his hips and constantly attacking and when he gets the sub it's put into his lap. Anderson against Jones is very interesting for the entire minute or so that it's contested on the feet but as soon as Jones decides to dump him it ends up as a one-sided ass beating with Bones swinging the hammer.
Answer the question. He beat a half concious Hendo, and it still took him 2 minute to do that once Hendo hit the matt
Nice try at deflection, but that isnt arguing is it. Read a dictionary. I'll ask again, give me some examples of Anderson defending the take downs against a wrestler
