Can anyone name.......

I admit all the huggers me included do get a bit :bbbfrom time to time....as do the fence sitters and haters.....but maybe more threads like this can help structure the forum a bit better

Like I said before maybe we need a trash talking thread and a Mundine thread as "stickys" and we all agree to keep on topic in other threads????

 

There's plenty of merit in what you say above MP.

But the reality is that boxing is largely run by greedy, self-interested people who couldn't give a rats so long as they are making their squillions!

(not pointing at the Aussie scene here - it's the big o/s boys).

 

Don't get me wrong. I'm on your side.

Just can't see all those enormous egos fitting in the same room so as they can sit down at the same table and work toward a 'common' goal.

 

I reckon I'd go close, but would rather fail than admit Bitchsko is the holder of sport's greatest title

 

'Give the top 25-200 more hope'.

Theres a reason they are the top 25-200. If they're not good enough to be top ten they should be rewarded regardless?

MPs right onto it, but it'll never happen, as too many people are only interested in looking after themselves and their own interests.

 

Naming any list of champs today is nearly impossible, even for Rainman-esque brains. lol.

Things become messy in some instances during the late 60's and early 70's. By the mid 80's with the IBF introduction, it become harrardous to contemplate recognising the vast majority, especially with the previous mix of H/W's.

The days of recognising any fighter as an extended champ in any division is long gone.... oddly, some continue to believe it's the mark of a legend to hop, skip and jump divisions year after year, making a single defence or none at all.

Some even suggest that a World title should still be on offer for a fighter in a battle with a bloke who doesn't make the weight... FFS.

Reverting back to a single GOVERNING body would quickly determine who is a great divisional Champ. This is far from infalible all the same, as the Yanks had a strong hold of most divisions over the last 120 years, with a major reluctance to open the door for internationals to take a shot at the crowns.

The return of a single governing body has other benefits, as we know from the history books. Seeing Top 10 fighters in each division battling against one another produced some of the more memorable encounters in the sports history. An endless number of fights could be listed, and everyone of them would be known pretty well by even the low key fight fan.

With a Top 10 in place, the struggle to make way into that list would again see the likes of Commonwealth Nations pitted against one another, as well as European and National crowns being far more attractive.

Without looking at boxrec or any other internet source, can anyone name the Oz W/W Champ from 2005?? The Oz H/W Champ from 2007??

Once titles of distinction, now they're quickly tossed aside for a regional belt that opens a door to a particular top 30.... basically making the fighter one of the top 150+ fighters at the division world wide. A stark contrast to the 1900's- 1970's in Oz..

 

Which Bitchsko.... and what about Haye?? Lol.

 

are you some sort of writer?? I didn't know boxing fans can be so well spoken..It does amaze me how well some people write on here..

 

I stole it from YVB....

 

Mate, there are numerous opportunities for fighters to make a name for themselves, but when we lose sight of the term "Champion of the World" it's supposed to mean the best in the division, bar none.

The reality of this is that none of the Boxing organisations are taken very seriously when it comes down to the genuine best in the division, "The Ring" magazine has for decades been the stone tablet on truth for best of the best.
That may change now that it is in the hands of a vested interest in conflict, we'll see, but you can't have 100 champions doing the same thing, & that is fundamentally why all the **** ****en titles are a flat out money grubbing joke.

And BTW, **** starting new threads, I can't keep up with the ****s that are already running.

 

Haye will clear that up this year... :good

 

Yep, the H/W Champ should be a bloke who braides his hair and wears moisturiser. lol