Can Baer go undefeated vs these fighters

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Was reading through my other thread and thought if Max Baer could be favored to beat Oscar Bonavena, George Chuvalo and Ingemar Johannson (yes I know he wasn't a 70s fighter). We'll assume that Baer shows up in shape and ready to fight?
     
  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I’d favour him against all 3 on his best nights but they are fights he could easily los
     
  3. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He should be favored in all 3. That doesn't mean he goes undefeated but he could I guess.

    I identify Chuvalo and Bonavena more with the 60s and view this as more 3 60s HWs than 70s.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I would make him a heavy favorite over Johansson. Chuvalo and Bonavena are closer fights because of their chins and stamina. So yeah I suppose Baer COULD potentially beat all three.
     
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  5. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He probably beats em all, unless he's jesting around and loses a decision?
     
  6. Anubis

    Anubis Boxing Addict

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    Well Max won over the Kingfish in the summer heat, 20 rounds, and he revived his career over the Championship Distance against Championship Distance veteran Tommy Farr. Had a pair of tenth round knockouts, won the title in 11 and stopped Ben Foord for the movie camera in nine. The guy did have late round power.


    Interestingly, Ingo had a pair of round 13 knockouts, where Chuvalo's latest stoppage was the huge one over Doug Jones in 11. Ringo had a 1967 12 round win over Mildenberger in Frankfurt, and on the other side of his career, in 1974, he UDed Middleton over 12.

    Stamina won't be an issue.

    Power could be. No question Chuvalo got his bell rung by Foreman, and upon careful review of the footage, Bonavena should've been credited for two knockdowns against Chuvalo. A young Ringo got decked and buckled in Folley I, frankly was blasted down twice by Ellis in situations where he was fortunate those rounds were coming to and end, and he lost all control of his body after what I believe may actually have been the hardest punch of Ali's career, certainly his most devastating hook.

    Maxie was only ever dropped by Louis in the Bomber's peak performance, then by Nova in his finale. Galento, Schmeling and Braddock could also hit though (Louis rated Braddock over Schmeling in power). The Larruper could take a shot.

    Neither Ingo or Maxie worked as hard as they should've, but in the unlikely event Johansson reaches the final bell, the Larruper was far more accomplished over the limit. Loughran taught him a very serviceable hard jab we see on display early in round ten with Schmeling.