Can FROCH handle the Psyche war..no no no

Hit the nail on the head, couldn't put it any better.

 

Crazy Brits ! You´ve got a proven superstar in Carl Froch.
On his worst night - a winning one - and you fall in love with the loser.
Put the blame on the old warrior - oh yeeahhh ! He does not talk as smart and fancy as the loser. He even cracks on TV and asks for respect. You suddenly find him pathetic and You praise the loser for his wellspoken disrespect.
Crazy Brits - do You renember how You disliked and took away all the pride from Joe Bugner, never allowed him to feel as a winner. Young and naive , new champ of the Brits- and You made him feel as a refugee, he would fight for nobody but himself all those lonely years after the Cooper fight.
Groves - a loser - but a Brit. He is your new Henry Cooper. What ever happens from now on- any loss will be seen as Groves the brave fighting his heart out, never surrending only rescued.
Crazy Britz !
Froch is a proud man with all the rights to be one. In the end he proved to be a better man.
And if the return becomes a reality, he is the better man untill Groves proves it wrong.
I can´t pick a winner of a return, neither can any Brit. You can shout and argue - but in the ring on the night - it is a fact that Groves will be up against a very determined Carl Froch, who knows what to expect from Groves. He won´t be caught by surprice.
If Groves proves to be the better man on the night - I´ve got no doubts that Froch will take his defeat as the great man he really is.

 

His worst performance was Taylor, his worst fight was Dirrell. Taylor because he was getting his arse handed to him for the entire fight then got an extremely late stoppage, and Dirrell because he spent the whole fight chasing his opponent and landing nothing of significance but got a hometown decision win - and I can fully understand how Dirrell fighting so negatively was never going to get him the win in his opponents hometown, but that doesn't make it right.

Groves, at least, was entertaining - which Dirrell wasn't - and Froch, at least, was not totally outclassed and only won because his opponent gassed - like he was/did against Taylor.

Nobody blames Froch for the decision. It was his attitude that made everyone turn on him. Refusing to recognize that he had been given a tough fight, attempting to justify a stoppage the vast majority of people and even the sanctioning body now believe to have been very premature, acting as if it was a win as decisive as his one against Bute, distancing himself from any potential rematch and deluding himself about anybody having any interest in a fight with Chavez when he had unfinished business with Groves, etc, etc.

All of Froch's bad qualities, all of the attitude problems and the arrogance and the egomania, was put on display for the better part of two-and-a-half months. This might have been fine and palatable to the British public when his opponents were Americans or Danes or Armenians or whatever, it was not when aimed towards as fellow Brit in the aftermath of a closely fougth contest that ended in controversial and unsatisfying fashion.

That's a bad comparison. Groves has his fair share of critics for his personality and ability. He's never going to be as universally loved by the British public as Henry Cooper was. Hell, even questioning the split of the purse for the IBF ordered rematch with Froch and petitioning the sanctioning body to change it - as he was fully within his rights to do -has seen people turn on him.

What? You mean like the way he took defeat to Kessler like a man - claiming he was robbed and crying for a rematch for the next few years - or the way he took defeat to Ward like a man - saying it wasn't the true him and he could do better and crying for a rematch for a few years. Lets face it, he doesn't have a great record of being a good sport when he's lost - which is not unexpected of a man with an ego his size.

 

Whether you agree or not, quality posting from Claus Holmen and MAJR.

I would add MAJR that Froch outlanded Dirrell in tha fight.

Either way good posts lads

 

You've obviously never seen the Taylor fight then ?
I suggest you go watch it, then come back with your scorecard, and explain to us how Froch was getting his arse handed to him after the 6th round.

 

there's a lot of risible drivel in this post, especially the bit where getting paid over £1m constitutes fighting "for free".

 

i'd also add that in a radio interview the day after their bout, froch stated that groves had given him a tough fight and proven he belongs at world level.

 

Have you never heard of the term "exaggeration for effect"?

Froch was second best throughout the Taylor fight and only got into it as Taylor gassed. At best I'd give Froch 5 rounds - rounds 6, 9, 10, 11 and 12 - and most of his success came in the later rounds as Taylor was running out of energy. I had Taylor winning it by 4 points when it was stopped and the card rendered moot anyway.

 

Froch is an intellegant man with the ability to learn from his mistakes.
Froch showed Kessler respect before their return and apologized for some of his rather silly remarks. That´s what a man does.
I can be proved wrong - but I think he´ll take defeat as a man - if the day comes when he´s actually defeated by a fellow boxer. Groves put him on his pants but he did´nt defeat him. If Groves puts him down for good in a return- Froch will know how to praise the boxer who placed him there for the finish.

 

quality posts why so few :huh:good

 

Yes, i've been hearing that Froch was terrified of Groves, that his head was spinning with the clever mind games Groves played, that Groves won every minute of every round, and that the ref saved Froch from an embarrassing defeat.
With regard to the Taylor fight. Froch was bossing the second half of the fight, he was winning the battle of the jab, and rattling Taylor everytime the right hand landed. Taylor gassed because he was being pressurised.
Funny that you scored the 6th for Froch, because most didn't, including me.

 

Von zhing ist for sure and zhat ist zhat Froch vill have ist glass jaw shattered again in zie rematch.

 

Eddie: "Well done, lads. We've sold out Wembley, and now even the Yanks want see the pride of Britain in a good barney."

Carl: "It was me going off me onion that did it. Thanks to me, the gormless British public actually believes we're not chinas, Grovesy."

George: "Yes, well just remember who's going to be 'ringing his solicitor' any day now. Har har har!"

(General laughter)

Carl: "Say, mate, fancy heading down to the ol' rub a dub dub for a pint and a bacon butty?"

George: "That's the dog's bollocks, mate. Lead on."