Can Fury be an ATG?

Let's see.... His trial has begun.

 

His trial has begun.

 

if Fury beats Wilder and AJ I will be impressed.

 

Were you copying UTF from the post before you or did you guys make this exact same post and phrased the same way coincidentally 2 minutes apart? :blood That's freaking me out.

 

I read his post and reiterated his words of wisdom.

 

Wilder maybe. Joshua absolutely not.

It has nothing to do with somatotypes, either, before anyone lays into a lecture about how being a fatty doesn't preclude someone from being agile or skillful in their movement (Fury is, compared with many/most super heavyweights and relative to his frame, yes, but for a world champion boxer he is still pretty clumsy. The cutie-pie stuff he got away with yesterday could have been nipped in the bud if Klitschko bothered to man up and time him with the same punches he spent the last decade throwing routinely at every other contender. You can't give Fury credit for slipping a few pawing jabs and call him a defensive master with mercurial reflexes)

Joshua is, as well as fitter, more naturally talented, and skilled.

He may have gotten some gifts in the amateurs but was still a top player in the international game. Did he deserve a gold medal? Probably not. Was he a worthy Olympian, though? Yes. The best in his weight class in the amateurs? No. Up there? Yes.

Is his chin devoid of question marks? No. Is his chin, from everything we've seen, likely a good deal better than Fury's? Yes.

He's also quicker and more powerful and has the fundamentals down to a much greater degree.

 

Thanks! I can sleep tonight.

 

I doubt it myself. he would beat Wilder but that is not atg certifiable.

 

I still see Joshua as a great athlete turned boxer. I need to see way more to believe in him as a natural fighter. I do like him a lot (in that I'm a fan) and wish him a glorious career.

 

Otherwise Dustin Nichols' legend would rank up there next to Doug Jones'. :nod

 

...and I haven't? I've kept a running log of Wlad's decline for his last several defenses and have cited it as why some of his better challengers (meaning guys like Pulev and Povetkin, not scrubs like Wach or Leapai) had a chance with him they mightn't have when he was half a decade or more younger and still had Steward in his corner.

 

I'll give him a ton of credit if he beats Joshua or Povetkin (not so much Wilder, as he's the definition of a manufactured and babied champ) - just don't believe he can/will. Even now, based on yesterday's performance. I give him props for doing what he needed to and being the better man on the night, but he didn't need to be all that good to be the better man as Klitschko was just downright awful.

 

...because I was expecting Wlad to be the usual Wlad. He wasn't, and giving Fury too much credit for that is completely ignorant of the fact that Wlad bottled it from the get-go. If you want to ascribe that fear to Fury's mind games outside the ring, fine, but that's still naught to do with Fury's in-ring ability.

Fury outworked a version of Wladimir Klitschko that spent eight rounds terrified of engaging - not the same champion that brought the fight to Jennings and Pulev come hell or highwater even though it meant getting tagged a few times.

 

My god people Tyson Fury is a complete bum. Does anyone understand what boxing is all about anymore? Fury is a sloppy buffoon who does not have amateur level boxing skills. I was laughing at what I saw from both fighters last night. Complete joke.